2018 NFL DRAFT - GENERAL THREAD

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by Dogside18, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Can I get that in a schedule breakdown?
     
  2. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    AFCN: 4-2 (Ravens x2, Bengals-home, Steelers-home)
    AFCW: 3-1 (Raiders, Broncos, Chiefs)
    NFCS: 1-3 (Tampa)
    Jets: W
    Texans: L
     
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  3. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    While it's not outside of the realm of possibility, I still see that as a pretty damn bold posture.

    I like it.

    I don't agree with it, but I like it.
     
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  4. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    You can't predict individual games...You could lose to the Jets(predictably the worst team on the schedule) and beat the Steelers twice(although improbable, this is the NFL, weird things happen).

    The difference between 0 wins and 9 wins is about:
    7.4 points per game on offense...So you really have to ask yourself, is this team 8 points per game better than last year? I think they are, hands down...IF...Tyrod (veteran) starts the season and Josh Gordon stays on the field an entire season.
    AND
    5.2 points per game on defense...So again, ask yourself if this defense is 5 points per game better than last year...Well, with the loss of DeShone Kizer and addition of Tyrod Taylor, that 28 differential in turnovers should shrink enourmously. Even if it cut in half..that's a 14 turnover differential (to the bad) and about a 4 point per game swing to the positive. I believe the influx of talent in the DB room will make up the difference.

    So, THAT is more about why I believe 9 wins is a real possibility over inquiring into a crystal ball to see which teams will be the ones that lose to the lowly Browns....
     
  5. Something a lot of people are forgetting....The AFCN knows Haley and his offense...the Browns don’t
     
  6. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    No one knows the 2018 version of the Haley offense...He had an offense for Roethlisberger, Brown and Bell

    Taylor is a totally different kind of QB than Ben...Gordon is a totally different type of WR than Brown and the trio of RBs the Browns will utilize differently than Bell was...

    This will not be Pittsburghs offense...it will be Haley's version of the new Browns offense tailored towards Taylor/Mayfield


    (edit) Don't forget, Haley knows the AFC North's DEFENSES very well..so the transition of the new coordinator will have a small learning curve in the film room.
     
  7. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    That's fine, but I was interested in what SAS thought about how the new Browns would stack up to the teams on the schedule.

    Nine wins is possible, but it's a big leap from one year to the next so I wanted a bit more insight into how he believed the season might break down.

    I don't know where the lowly Browns thing comes in, but alright then...
     
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  8. This is so far fetched it’s crazy....every game is a new game....if New Orleans loses game 1 they will have extra motivation not to start 0-2....will Pitt play Ben and the offense more in preseason compared to last yr so their not so rusty...this was evident week 1....Balt was destroyed w injuries all year and now have added a bunch of weapons along w their injured players
     
  9. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    They are 1-31 in the past two years, don't you think the first half of that schedule will have teams overlooking them a tad? I wasn't putting that on you, I was merely reiterating what the general perception of this franchise is at this time...I believe that will change fairly quick moving into the first quarter of the 2018 season...Then again, I am always a glass half full kinda guy...so..
     
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  10. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Ok, that's cool.

    I had the impression that you thought I was simply dismissing Cleveland, but I get it now.

    I have some early thoughts on what I think their season may be like, but I haven't started looking close enough at full rosters, schedules, coaching changes and situations for all 32 to have strong opinions on things.

    I'm still in a lingering draft mode, lol.
     
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  11. He may make a few adjustments but his offense will not be a complete 180...Pitt also had Bryant who is similar to Gordon....I’m saying QB learning Haley’s offense....Balt and Cincy usually played well against Pitt
     
  12. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    It was based in reality, not far fetched anything...

    There were 6 teams that were 9-7 last year...they averaged 21.95 points per game on offense and gave up 20.36 points per game on defense.
    The Browns were 0-16 last year...they averaged 14.6 points per game on offense and gave up 25.6 points per game on defense.

    So, a point differential of -9 points per game submits you to a 0 win season...

    A point differential of +1.6 points per game gives you the opportunity to be 1 game above .500

    This isn't rocket science, if you score more points than you give up, the wins start to add up.
     
  13. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Hearing both Tyrod and Baker speak on the playbook, they have both commented that it is player friendly and should help them implement it early.
     
  14. We all get that but my point is they can still lose a game 31-30 where the pt differential is lowered but the results are the same....hence every game is different
     
  15. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I look for it to be more tailored to what he ran in Arizona.
     
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  16. Who was his QB?
     
  17. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Warner in 2008.
     
  18. That’s what I thought...pocket passer
     
  19. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Then you completely missed the point.
     
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  20. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Fixed it.

    *Does not include playoff record.
     
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