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That's why he's a Hall of Famer. Should be first ballot.

 

Just thought id throw this out there and I don't necessarily agree with it, but a poster here claimed Witten was a shoe in for the HOF... from; PHT (nuff said)

Cowboys tight end Jason Witten announced his retirement on Thursday, and plenty of stories about him referred to him as a future Hall of Famer. He may be, but no one should pencil him in for the class of 2023, which is his first year of eligibility.

The Hall of Fame selection committee hasn’t been particularly generous with tight ends. There are only eight tight ends in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and none of them got in on the first ballot. The last tight end inducted, Shannon Sharpe, was voted down twice before he was admitted in his third year of eligibility. If Sharpe (a four-time first-team All-Pro with three Super Bowl rings) had to wait, then Witten (a two-time first-team All-Pro with zero Super Bowl rings) will have to wait as well.

Witten may also be behind some more accomplished players on the list of first-year eligible players. Joe Thomas will be on that list as well, and Thomas would likely be ahead of Witten in line. If Adrian Peterson and Darrelle Revis retire this offseason, they’d go in ahead of Witten as well. And another tight end, Antonio Gates, could get in ahead of Witten as well, if Gates retires this offseason.

And that’s before we get to the long list of players who will be on the Hall of Fame ballot in 2023 for the second or third or fifth or 10th time. We don’t yet know who all those players will be, but the Hall of Fame ballot is crowded every year, and a maximum of five modern-era players can get in each year.

So while Witten has had a great career, first-ballot Hall of Famer will probably not be an item he can add to his résumé.

PS -I might add he is a 'shoe in', but maybe not 1st ballot... Personally, I think he is and so were some of the others mentioned.

 

As far as a SB overseas. I don't argue that its not doable, logistics, travel, ticket sales, venue, all are very likely accomplished. My point is this... its our game and by tradition should be played here as its always been. That's just my opinion on it. Let THEM watch it and its stupid commercials on TV!

 

There's a reason that, outside of the U.S., its called American Football.

 

1) I don't think there's any "may be" about it - Witten is a Hall of Famer. 4th in career receptions (2nd among TEs). 11 Pro Bowls.

2) No, he doesn't have the rings Shannon Sharpe has. But Witten also didn't play with one of the greatest QBs ever (John Elway) for over half his career. Wittens numbers (receptions, yards, TDs) are better than Sharpe's across the board.

That said, while I think Witten is absolutely deserving of a first ballot HoF honor, I could understand if he didn't make it the first time out.

 

Agree with Lyman.

No Supes in Mexico, Canada, England, Europe, etc.

 

Witten is a definite HOFer. No TE has been first ballet yet? Has Tony Gonzalez become eligible yet? He is certainly first ballet. I believe Witten is first ballet too. Gonzalez ought to be on the ballet now or next season.

 

Gonzo's eligible NEXT year, I believe.

 

because were were stupid enough to name this sport, that doesnt involve the use of feet very often, the same name as an already established world wide sport that solely uses the feet.

 

The “Naming Committee” (a room full of 10 suits:
Mr. 1: “we have this game and to start off we kick the ball to the opponent.”
Mr. 2: “you kick it? With your foot?”
Mr. 1: “Yeah”
Mr. 2: “Football. Meeting over. Beer me!”

 

the thing is unlike Cooperstown and baseball where it's 75% of 1 vote and all those over 75% are in the HOF. THe NFL HOF is 6 rds of voting each year, so Witten could make a few rounds or all the rounds to Canton in year 1, but as the rounds dwindle the player pool eligible for enshrinement, it gets tougher to pick as the pool is full of potential big name HOF'ers. So Gonzalez, Pederson, another others begin to fill the easy slots for enshrinement over someone like Witten. Now I think Witten deserves to get in, but the way the NFL HOF votes, it's hard to beat the others for your own HOF spot when others are so much more worthy. It's not TE vs TE for voting, it's Witten vs every other eligible player of the HOF. Tough to do, but he will be in Canton eventually, if not year 1.

 

I’m liking Witten and Gonzalez more than AP. Peterson’s suck years are still too fresh in my head.

 

As is his useage of "the switch". It may not ever play a part in deciding his HOF status, but given two names coming down to the last spot, it could.

 

It wasn't very widespread, or established when real football was named. Yes, soccer predates, but not by that much.

 

Seahawks release Cliff Avril with failed physical designation

The dismantling of a once-great Seahawks defense continued Friday.

The team announced that defensive end Cliff Avril had been released with a failed physical designation.

He suffered a neck injury early last year, and the team made it clear that if he came back to play, it wasn’t going to be with them.

Avril has said he wants to keep playing, though it’s unclear who will give him a chance with his age and the injury.

Avril joins Michael Bennett, Richard Sherman, and eventually Kam Chancellor on the outs this offseason.

He had 33.5 sacks over his four years with the Seahawks, and forced 13 fumbles. (PFT)

 

so Tom Brady can throw for 500 yards in the SB and lose but Joe Montanta can throw more picks than TDs in a season and not qualify for the post season and thats "great"?

 

I will conceed that Tom Brady is the GOATTLMSB.
Greatest Of All Time To Lose Multiple Super Bowls

 

Yes it does answer your question. Greatness is about perception, and nobody talks about playoff games lost, and therefore it doesn't detract the way losing The Title does. As you progress up the playoff ladder, in terms of greatness, the ups and downs are higher.

 

Joe never lost when All the glory was on the line.

 

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