2018 Official NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Campbell, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    So you take into account an immeasurable for defense, but you have nothing to do the same for offense?
     
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  2. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I use it solely for certain traits that can be heavily influenced by a high motor. A guy that blocks through the whistle, runs his routes with effort when not targeted, a quarterback that works to sell his play fakes, a defender that continues to chase the ball down the field and things of that nature can be gathered rather easily on film and I think it demonstrates a level of dedication that gets a small number in my totals.

    It shows up more in blocking and on defense because I'm inherently more aware of it.

    It's an included number that would add up to the type of total that might serve as a tie breaker between similarly scored players.
     
  3. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I've gotta agree with the order you have these teams. Actually, to me the order is almost non-negotiable. I have enough of a gap between each team's class.
     
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  4. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I am almost done ranking the draft classes. It is tough at times since you need to take into account, scheme, need, approach, trades, value and situations.
    There is one team I looked at after that I gave a high grade on that others called one of the worst drafts. Seems like it's very divided. You'll know soon enough.
     
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  5. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    After seeing the inch-deep analysis from the mainstream press, it will be nice to read something that had some actual thought put into it.
     
  6. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I am just about to post them in a thread in reverse order. I don't want to do it pick by pick and I won't be giving grades. Just rank them. Although I will say where the tiers seem to start and end. Some may not be amused, but screw it.
     
  7. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    If need is a factor, I'm sure the Falcons will get hit hard for not doing more at DT.

    I'm already at peace with it, mainly because the hole is so freaking obvious that I'm convinced Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff have some other plan at the position that the rest of us simply don't know about yet.
     
  8. TopDawg Legend

    So in the Rams case, are you taking into account the veteran players acquired for the first two picks, plus the trade that brought Peters? Or just looking at the draft class? just curious...Rams were dealin all over the place.
     
  9. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Mainly the draft. For instance the Rams would have been much higher if I gave them more credit for the Cooks trade. The Eagles lost 2nds and 3rds and the Texans lost 1sts and 2nds. What they do and how they handle being in that handicapped scenario matter more than how many of their players are ranked in the top whatever. Conversely a team like the Pats that got a pick for Cooks... how do they use that asset may be given a bit more weight than a normal selection. I won't necessarily explain all that but it's in there.
     
  10. TopDawg Legend

    Well I was just saying. If you consider acquired players Talib, Cooks and Peters as part of the draft class, plus the picks acquired in the Ogletree and Quinn trades...I think the Rams had a very interesting offseason, and though it's tough to grade their draft, I can see this getting them into the NFC Championship game this year, if not further...
     
  11. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Of course they can. But would it be because of or despite the draft?
     
  12. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    (cough) Mo Claiborne (cough)
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    Justin Gilbert (cough)
     
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  13. rediiis Guest

    I really do not like CBS and their drivel. So this is out of the blue. 5 star recruits and where they landed.
    First Round

    Josh Rosen, UCLA (No. 11 in 2015 class) – No. 10 to Arizona Cardinals
    Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama (No. 30 in 2015 class) – No. 11 to Miami Dolphins
    Da'Ron Payne, Alabama (No. 29 in 2015 class) – No. 13 to the Washington Redskins
    Derwin James, Florida State (No. 5 in 2015 class) – No. 17 to the Los Angeles Chargers
    Rashaan Evans, Alabama (No. 14 in 2014 class) – No. 22 to the Tennessee Titans
    Calvin Ridley, Alabama (No. 12 in 2015 class) – No. 26 to the Atlanta Falcons
    Sony Michel, Georgia (No. 20 in 2014 class) – No. 31 to the New England Patriots

    Second Round

    Nick Chubb, Georgia (No. 33 in 2014 class) – No. 35 to Cleveland Browns
    Christian Kirk, Texas A&M (No. 25 in 2015 class) – No. 47 to Arizona Cardinals

    Third Round

    Lorenzo Carter, Georgia (No. 18 in 2014 class) – No. 66 to New York Giants
    Chad Thomas
    , Miami (No. 25 in 2014 class) – No. 67 to Cleveland Browns
    Malik Jefferson, Texas (No. 10 in 2015 class) – No. 78 to Cincinnati Bengals
    Rasheem Green, USC (No. 21 in 2015 class) – No. 79 to Seattle Seahawks

    Fourth Round

    Da’Shawn Hand, Alabama (No. 5 in 2014 class) – No. 114 to Detroit Lions
    Josh Sweat, Florida State (No. 8 in 2015 class) – No. 130 to Philadelphia Eagles

    Fifth Round

    Andrew Brown, Virginia (No. 12 in 2014 class) – No. 158 to Cincinnati Bengals

    Sixth Round

    Deon Cain, Clemson (No. 18 in 2015 class) – No. 185 to Indianapolis Colts
    Kahlil McKenzie, Tennessee (No. 6 in 2015 class) – No. 198 to Kansas City Chiefs

    Seventh Round

    Bo Scarbrough, Alabama (No. 16 in 2014 class) – No. 236 to Dallas Cowboys

    Undrafted
    2015 Class

    Trenton Thompson, Georgia (No. 1 in 2015 class) – Signed with the Cleveland Browns
    Kevin Toliver, LSU (No. 9 in 2015 class) – Signed with the Chicago Bears
    Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State (No. 15 in 2015 class) – San Francisco 49ers
    Maea Teuhema, LSU/Southeastern Louisiana (No. 37 in 2015 class) – Undrafted free agent

    2014 Class

    Quin Blanding, Virginia (No. 6 in 2014 class) – Signed with the Washington Redskins
    Kyle Allen, Texas A&M/Houston (No. 8 in 2014 class) – Signed with the Carolina Panthers
    Tony Brown, Alabama (No. 9 in 2014 class) – Signed with Los Angeles Chargers
    Roc Thomas, Auburn/Jacksonville State (No. 23 in 2014 class) – Signed with Minnesota Vikings
    Ermon Lane, Florida State (No. 24 in 2014 class) – Signed with New Orleans Saints
    Tre Williams, Auburn (No. 22 in 2014 class) – Signed with New York Jets
    Clifton Garrett, LSU (No. 29 in 2014 class) – Undrafted free agent

    2013 Class

    Matthew Thomas, Florida State (No. 8 in 2013 class) – Signed with Pittsburgh Steelers
    Max Browne, USC/Pittsburgh (No. 11 in 2013 class) – Undrafted free agent
    Thomas Tyner, Oregon/Oregon State (No. 20 in 2013 class) – Chose to retire from football
    Robert Foster, Alabama (No. 23 in 2013 class) – Signed with Buffalo Bills
    Keith Ford, Oklahoma/Texas A&M (No. 25 in 2013 class) – Signed with Buffalo Bills
    Max Redfield, Notre Dame/IUP (No. 29 in 2013 class) – Undrafted free agent
    Darius James, Texas/Auburn (No. 35 in 2013 class) – Signed with New York Jets
     
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  14. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Time to look at the NFC North -

    Here's how I rank the draft classes:
    1. Packers
    2. Bears
    3. Vikings
    4. Lions
    Some of my favorite picks from each team -

    Detroit Lions:
    • Frank Ragnow: The Lions needed to add some talent to the interior of the offensive line and Ragnow is one of the better prospects for both run and pass support.
    • Tracy Walker: Walker is a true cover safety that will find a home early on in long passing situations as a 3rd safety/4th cornerback.
    Minnesota Vikings:
    • Mike Hughes: Mike Hughes has the potential to develop into one of the best CBs taken in this draft and I don't believe he would have made it past Philadelphia if the Vikings didn't pull the trigger.
    • Ade Aruna: Ade presents an interesting addition to Zimmer's defense and will probably see his snap count increase on passing downs as a rotation piece in the latter stages of his rookie season.
    Chicago Bears:
    • Roquan Smith: Unquestionably the best linebacker in this class and a day one starter for Chicago. The Bears definitely reaped the reward from quarterbacks going early in this draft.
    • James Daniels: The Bears needed to add a player to the interior of the offensive line that can improve the pass protection for second year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. Daniels may be the best in this class for that exact purpose.
    • Joel Iyiegbuniwe: My #6 rated LB from this class and a player that managed to fly under the radar with most analysts. Joel I has the skill and speed to cover from sideline to sideline and I can seem him working into a starters role sooner rather than later.
    • Bilal Nichols: Bilal is a raw block of granite that the Bears can sculpt into whatever they want on the defensive line but he possesses the athletic traits to develop into a solid 3-4 DE.
    Green Bay Packers:
    • Jaire Alexander: My #3 rated CB in this class, Jaire was talented enough to go in the top 16 but the Packers worked the board by moving down, then back up to snag him (while adding a future first).
    • Josh Jackson: Jackson easily could have went in the first so the Packers lucked out on him sliding a touch. Green Bay doubles down on cornerback to start the draft with a pair of future starters.
    • Oren Burks: Burks has some dynamic athleticism in his game and will likely make an immediate impact on passing downs as a cover LB.
    • J'Mon Moore: Moore was my #4 ranked receiver for this class and the Packers will likely find him work fairly early from the slot. He's an underrated route runner with the ceiling of a #1 receiver in any offense.
    • Equanimeous St. Brown: This is the kind of player that can be utilized in many mismatch situations because of his size and length. Get him on the field in 4 WR sets and if the match-up is good, simply put the ball within his catch radius and let him go to work.
     
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  15. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I believe I have the teams in the same order. A bit of a debate could be there for Chicago and Minnesota to flop but I also have some clear separation between each team in the division. And outside those two I mentioned, it isn't close.
     
  16. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Hey draft season isn't quite over yet. It's CFL draft time. That Mark Korte guy just went in the 1st round. lol
     
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  17. rediiis Guest

    Just when I thought Danny Etling would go #1 in the CFL, the Patriots draft him in the 7th.
     
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  18. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Gotta be Canadian but lol.
     

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