My guess is that you're missing a complete and total lack of logic and reasoning and most of all just his opinion of all things.
Joe Thomas(33), McCourty(30), Tretter(27), Zeitler(27), Kirksey(25), DeValve(25), Collins(27), Taylor(27), Gordon(26)...Im sure there are more....all over 23 yrs old as starters...grasping at straws
Man, this is bad. Unless All of those current starters listed are guys that are drafted this year, THEN, in 3-4 years are 23+ years of age, helping hoist a Lombardi...
Dude, you are totally missing the point... I am saying ONLY draft picks added to the roster will NOT turn this team into a playoff team in 2018..They MUST also add more veterans or it will just be another year of learning, where a vet QB wins you 3-4 games. You DO NOT UNDERSTAND the statement...
No shit Sherlock....you can't be this dense...really, you can't MY POINT WAS a team of 21-23 year olds will never win a Lombardi...It will have to be veteran laden, which would include 2016-2018 draft picks who AT THAT TIME will be veterans...
Now they all want to come to Cleveland The city of Cleveland has not been considered one of the elite landing spots in the National Football League the last 19 seasons because losing seems to have taken up permanent residence there. Being drafted by the Browns has been like a sentence to NFL hell with no chance of experiencing winning football. In 19 seasons since the resurrection in 1999, this franchise has enjoyed just two winning seasons and occupied the basement 15 times. With no AFC Central titles and a lone season with double-digit victories (10 in 2007), is it any wonder many players who enter the annual college draft do not list Cleveland as one of the places they prefer to land? That attitude, it would appear, has changed if the words of the top four quarterbacks in this year’s draft class are to be taken seriously, especially with the Browns taking dead aim on selecting one of them in an effort to finally land their franchise quarterback. All of a sudden, Cleveland isn’t such a bad place to play football. Take it from Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen. All four were presented the same question by the media at the NFL Combine a few days ago in Indianapolis. What do you think about playing in Cleveland? they were asked. It didn’t seem to bother any of them. Mayfield was the most vociferous. The brash Heisman Trophy winner from Oklahoma, known for his supreme self-confidence and devil-may-care style of quarterbacking, practically campaigned for the Browns to take him with the No. 1 overall pick. “I think if anybody is going to turn that franchise around, it would be me,” he said. “They’re close. They’re very close. They have the right pieces. I think they need just one guy, a quarterback to make that difference.” Sound familiar? Remember this? “I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together.” Yep, that was Johnny Manziel texting Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains during the 2014 NFL draft. Loggains showed owner Jimmy Haslam III the text and the boss said, “Pull the trigger. We’re trading up to get this guy.” Manziel was correct about the wrecking. He just didn’t know at the time it would be his professional football career. Darnold was somewhat more reserved than Mayfield, but still welcomed the opportunity should the Browns take him. “I think turning a franchise around is obviously a hard thing to do,” he said, “but I’m always accepting a challenge and I think it would be an amazing thing to do. It’s another opportunity to show why I’m a good quarterback.” Rosen, on the other hand, tried to walk back an earlier ESPN report that indicated he would prefer to play anywhere but Cleveland. “I’ve never said anything about not wanting to play in Cleveland,” he told Michael Silver of the NFL Network. “I don’t know where that came from. There is absolutely no foundation in reality in that report “I don’t know anything about Cleveland. I’ve never been there . . . so it’s impossible to form opinions when you haven’t really done any research on the actual place. I’m probably going to visit there, hang out with them, then whoever picks me I’ll be excited to play for.” Allen had two different takes when asked. “I want to be the guy that turns around the Cleveland Browns,” he said in late January at the Senior Bowl, then was more cautious at the Combine. “I don’t know because I’ve never (turned around a team) before,” he said, “but I’d go in there with everything I have and try to instill a winning mind-set and that type of attitude, try and become a leader of the team with . . . the understanding of what we needed to do to try and turn things around. “I love football. Everything I can do to play this game I’m going to do and if they are willing to step out on a ledge and take me with the No 1 overall pick, I’m going to give them everything I have.” The goal of all four, of course, is to be the prestigious top overall selection and there is nothing wrong with lobbying the Browns to be that young man. But they will have competition from the best non-quarterback in the class. Penn State running back Saquon Barkley had all the right answers when asked the same question by the media. You could tell he was either coached very well or had studied hard about the Browns. He knew the Browns had a new offensive coordinator, had won only one game the last two seasons and were in their fair share of games. “You want to be a part of something like that,” he said. “Something that will leave a legacy. Being a part of something special.” Five different opinions of players worthy of consideration as the first overall selection, all saying the right things because they want to be that pick. Now it’s up to Cleveland General Manager John Dorsey to parse those words, factor in how they would fit into his plans for his new team and make what is hopefully a wise decision and a positive impact on the immediate future. Posted by Rich Passan
Fired Browns' coaches livin' it up with a party at Rock Bottom in Indianapolis. https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...ired-coaches-part-indy-rock-bottom/403625002/
Son: "Dad, I fell in love and want to date this awesome girl." Father: "That's great, son! Who is she?" Son: "It's Sandra, the neighbor's daughter." Father: "Ohhh, I wish you hadn't said that. I have to tell you something, son, but you must promise not to tell your mother. Sandra is actually your sister." The boy is naturally bummed out, but a couple of months later: Son: "Dad, I fell in love again and she is even hotter!" Father: "That's great, son! Who is she?" Son: "It's Angela, the other neighbor's daughter." Father: "Ohhh, I wish you hadn't said that. Angela is also your sister." This went on a few more times, and finally the son was so mad, he went straight to his mother crying. Son: "Mom, I am so mad at dad! I fell in love with six girls and I can't date any of them because dad is their father!" The mother hugs him affectionately and says, "You can date whoever you want. He isn't your father!"
Couple things... 1. They have to hold it at the Convention Center to fit them all in. 2. Pat Shurmur is the only dude who's gotten another gig (just did, in fact), so... hooray for them? 3. Jimmy Haslam is footing the bill for that dinner, since they're all still probably on the payroll.
It was all over the Twitters yesterday that the Browns are in the early phases of R&D for a new uniform and/or logo at the earliest available time, the 2020 season. The Jags and another team (i don't recall who)are getting an upgrade to be announced at draft time. These two could help give somewhat of an idea to what to expect, but at the same time they might not. Nike has failed badly with some of its recent concepts (CLE, JAX), so it will be interesting. In the meantime be on the lookout for everyones thoughts on where the team should go.
The Akron Beacon-Journal reports the Browns are expected to move CB Damarious Randall to free safety. It's Randall's college position. As evidenced by his trade, Randall was never particularly effective at corner in Green Bay, either on the outside or in the slot. It's still possible the Browns end up keeping Randall at his NFL position after an offseason of experimenting at safety. Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
NFL Network's Mike Silver reports the Browns and contract-year RB Duke Johnson have engaged in extension talks. Silver reports the two sides aren't close, however, though Cleveland "absolutely wants to keep him." Johnson had a breakout 2017, amassing 1,041 total yards and seven touchdowns, while catching a career-best 74 passes. The Browns should have given him even more work, but that offense didn't have a clue. Johnson should remain an integral part of the pass offense with Tyrod Taylor. Source: Mike Silver on Twitter
I think it's safe to say that Johnson will still be very involved...He's a good player. Certainly he won't be the lead dawg though if we draft the Quan...
I have seen a lot of people suggesting the if we draft BARKley then we let Duke go. On a team that has 0 running backs, what sense does that make?
