The Mayfield - Washington connection is one I'd be 100% okay with bringing to the shores of Lake Erie.
Surprise, surprise... the 6'5" 240 pound rocket arm QB's arm looked good throwing against air in shorts. The talking head are also saying Saquon Barkley is in play at No. 1. Look, Barkley won the Combine hands down. Dude is awesome. But no running back, no matter how great, is going to lift a team from 1-31 to multiple Super Bowl wins. The only position to do that is quarterback. And typically, they aren't giant, cannon-armed small-school guys.
Are you looking for a player with comparable styles, to groom in Hue's system or to be the stand alone answer for Dorsey if he moves on from Jackson?
That's not bad. @Tim... have you tried out this site? https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/baker-mayfield It has Mayfield - Brandon Allen as a 82% match. Darnold - Curtis Painter as an 82% match.
And if we draft Allen, Rosen or Darnold and they bust, stopper simply has to go away?! (edit) as frustrating as I sometimes get attempting to carry on a conversation, I do at times enjoy stoppers comments...Man, it is just every thing in between that really irks me.
No, I have not but I'm wondering now if they base that on the same criteria that I do my combine comps with. And I'm also wondering if I just spent a lot of time doing the work that I could have just gleaned from these guys, lol. Thanks for the link.
Man... you don't log on all Sunday and miss 3 1/2 pages of Pigeon Chess with the People's Champ over there. #StoppersGonnaStopper Winners of the Combine: Saquon Barkley, Penn State Shaquem Griffin, LB UCF Baker Mayfield, QB Oklahoma The Cleveland Browns 2018 is shaping up to be one helluva class. Quick Browns mini-mock: 1 - Baker Mayfield, QB Oklahoma 4 - Saquon Barkely, RB Penn State 33 - Kolton Miller, OT UCLA 35 - Jaire Alexander, CB Louisville 64 - Mike Gesicki, TE Penn State 65 - Shaquem Griffin, LB UCF
Ok, so let's say Hue remains the head coach and you are looking to draft a quarterback that would fit into what he likes to do, historically, on Sundays. You can immediately take down Baker from the board, IMO. You can also remove Jackson. You're looking at Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, probably in that exact order.
Add the rumor coming out of Indy that the Browns are in play to attempt a trade for Jarvis Landry and this would be a winner in my book.
Wondering why... Hue loves the deep ball the the top three in the class (in order) are Mayfield, Rosen, and Jackson. Hue loves to give rookies insanely complex offensive systems to master. Mayfield and Rosen run laps around the rest of the guys in the class there. I'm not worried about it... we're drafting Baker at #1. I just want to know why you thought the three guys who on paper seem to best fit are the least-likeliest fits with Hue? If I had to guess, I'd say Hue's Top 3 (and remember, he'll tell us in 2-3 years who they were) today are: Rosen, Jackson, Mayfield - in order.
And this is why coaches and coordinators get fired so frequently...Trying to fit a guy that seems to have a certain skill set, because you have a way of doing things. Instead, how about you take the best player available and scheme to fit HIS skill set? This ridiculous notion that if Hue Jackson is HC, you better have the strongest arm in the class is down right annoying. For one, Baker Mayfield is still the most accurate down the field passer in this class, so looking at 4 guys in shorts throwing a ball against air and stating quite frankly, he doesn't have what it takes to make a certain throw is short sided in and of itself. He has made the throws, with a greater consistency than any other prospect in this draft. That pretty much sums that up...
The deal I heard that Miami was looking for (again, #sillyszn) was #11 and Jarvis Landry for a top pick targeting a QB - rumored to be Baker Mayfield.
@SAS I just searched through that link some more and it looks like it lines up everything the same way I do, with the only difference being that they don't go as far back historically that I do. When I searched Antonio Callaway and it came back at over 90% on Lee Evans, I was sold.
And yes, @showstopper, I'm converting him to WR and putting him on the boundary. Go ahead and find the cornerback physical enough, linebacker faster enough, or safety tall enough to stop him.
I know the love affair, but to keep saying Mayfield won the combine is just hilarious....no buzz at all w him after he competed