Yep cause I don't think Mayfield is worthy of a top 5 pick..good post...I have said very early Rosen 1 and Darnold 2
BUT, you haven't given any reasons why, except that Mayfield doesn't "look" like a QB, so he isn't a top 5 pick...Oh yeah, and ONE HALF OF A FOOTBALL GAME AGAINST THE #2 DEFENSE IN THE COUNTRY, where, as you stated "He looked average"...Even though Georgia faces many other QBs this season and none of them even looked average...It was shown to you numerous times how he played well above the "average QB play against GA", yet, all you can say is watch the second half of one game and define his entire career on that....Oh yeah, and Josh Rosen is "My guy"...You did say that as well.
I have given plenty of reasons...6 ft QB, hurry up offense that will not happen consistently in the NFL, Georg made adjustments vs him and he looked dazed and confused...good?
I asked you to exclude size. Already proved that Sam Darnold ran a higher-tempo offense than Oklahoma. Guess who ran a faster-tempo offense than Sam Darnold and the USC Trojan's? Can't believe we have to say this, but half of a game against one of the top defenses in college while executing an offense that the coach and coordinator called does not and should not inform the overall picture of a prospect.
I was talking to TD.....in my eyes thats what helps me gauge prospects....if you cant do it vs the best in college your not doing it in the NFL
Sam Darnold: *runs an up-tempo offense* *turns football over more than any other draft-eligible QB* @showstopper: Josh Rosen: *runs an extremely up-tempo offense* *is skinny* *is moody and uncoachable* @showstopper: Baker Mayfield: *is the best QB in the class* *rare QB prospect*
^^^^ The lady .gif is not an accident. You're choosing your QB like a shallow girl chooses a guy. "Girl... he's 6'3"? Lock that up!"
I watched plenty of USC and didnt see where they went torpedo speed...heck I just watched most of 1st half vs Ohio St and didnt see a snap above 15
Non-Mayfield QBs against Georgia: Comp. %: 55.0 Yards-per-Attempt: 5.6 TD%: 4.2 INT%: 2.7 Rating: 110.4 Mayfield against Georgia: Comp.%: 65.7 Yards-per-Attempt: 8.2 TD%: 5.7 INT%: 2.9 Rating: 147.7
UCLA Total Plays: 932 Total Time of Possession: 344:12 Pass Plays: 505 Time-per-Play: 0.92 USC Total Plays: 1,034 Total Time of Possession: 432:44 Pass Plays: 491 Time-per-Play: 1.05 Oklahoma Total Plays: 979 Total Time of Possession: 445:33 Pass Plays: 433 Time-per-Play: 1.14
Please go watch the game.....M Brown did a great job on bubbles and jet sweep passes....made big plays from behind the LOS
Mayfield cost the Sooners the game. I just watched it for the first time off the video posted here. Mayfield made a lot of piss poor throws that if he put them on the money Oklahoma scores 70 + points. The Georgia defense didn't really stop the Oklahoma offense as much as poor throws from Mayfield did. You guys keep talking about the second half but he cost them points in the first half too. Mayfield is only going to have more problems in the NFL because he is too short to see over the linemen.
Just some of the OL guys on the Sooners' roster 54 Marquis Hayes OL 6-5 345 FR Maryland Heights, MO 67 Ashton Julious OL 6-5 335 SR Florence, SC 73 Quinn Mittermeier OL 6-5 290 JR Topeka, KS 75 Dru Samia OL 6-5 302 JR Sacramento, CA 77 Erik Swenson OL 6-5 315 FR Downers Grove, IL 79 Dwayne Orso-Bacchus OL 6-5 328 JR Birmingham, AL 59 Adrian Ealy OL 6-6 297 FR Gonzales, LA 78 Orlando Brown OL 6-8 345 JR Duluth, GA Link: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/201/sort/height And now the Browns: 77 Banner, Zach OL 6-8 360 24 2 USC 67 Barker, Chris OL 6-2 305 27 3 Nevada 75 Bitonio, Joel OL 6-4 305 26 5 Nevada Cheek, Joseph OL 6-6 300 25 1 Texas A&M 72 Coleman, Shon OL 6-7 310 26 3 Auburn 66 Drango, Spencer OL 6-6 315 25 3 Baylor 79 Gray, Geoff OL 6-5 315 23 1 Manitoba (Canada) 78 Johnson, Rod OL 6-6 300 22 2 Florida State 63 Martin, Marcus OL 6-3 310 24 5 USC 62 Reiter, Austin OL 6-2 300 26 3 South Florida 71 Salako, Victor OL 6-5 316 24 2 Oklahoma State Schneider, Christian OL 6-5 304 22 1 UC-Davis 73 Thomas, Joe OL 6-6 312 33 12 Wisconsin 64 Tretter, JC OL 6-4 307 27 6 Cornell 70 Zeitler, Kevin OL 6-4 315 27 7 Wisconsin Link: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html
Let's take it one step further Duff...great work by the way... 2017 Oklahoma Sooners starting offensive line: LT Orlando Brown 6' 8" 345 LG Ben Powers 6' 4" 310 C Erick Wren 6' 1" 310 RG Dru Samia 6' 5" 302 RT Bobby Evans 6' 4" 308 2018 Cleveland Browns starting offensive line: LT Joe Thomas 6' 6" 312 LG Joel Bitonio 6' 4" C JC Tretter 6' 4" RG Kevin Zeitler 6' 4" RT Shon Coleman 6' 7" (assuming) The two lines look nearly identical LT Oklahoma was 2" taller LG Same exact height C Cleveland will be 3" taller RG Oklahoma was 1" taller RT Cleveland will be 2" taller Who is in the dark ages that believes the college teams have 5' 11" linemen? That would be stopper and Gid... It's about throwing lanes, not standing behind your tallest lineman and trying to throw it over his head. Too much is made of this. Some of the taller QBs in the NFL are the ones that continuously get passes batted at the line.
He completed 65% though......probably 10 passes were bubble, jet sweeps or inside 3-5 yds....as far as the height....Im talking when the pocket collapses and hes surrounded by guys 5-6 inches taller...it most definitely will be a problem
