What's next for Metoo#

Discussion in 'Opinion' started by Jeanquev, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    She was the star of most of those movies....the star typically gets paid more.

    The argument is if a man does the SAME job as a woman....they should get paid the SAME.
     
  2. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Thanks for not answering question. I give up.
     
  3. Catfish Guest

    coming from the same guy who doesn't believe in God, bashes people for believing in God, repeatedly tells others there is no God, nor the God they believe in and tells me I shouldn't use the "tard" as part of any word in a sentence. and I'm an immature twit ?
    :lol:
     
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  4. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Not believing in god equals being an immature twit? How so, cat? I'd love for you to elaborate on this. I have a strong feeling I'm gonna be let down by the result.
     
  5. Catfish Guest

    coming from the same guy who doesn't believe in God, bashes people for believing in God, repeatedly tells others there is no God, nor the God they believe in and tells me I shouldn't use the "tard" as part of any word in a sentence. and I'm an immature twit ?
    :lol:
    same job? the movie has tons of actors and actresses in it? so now everyone is equal? Actors have 1 line vs 50 lines? no chance on a movie set. who is the lead? who has top billing? so now you want everyone to be paid the same? they're ACTORS. Some get paid more and some get paid less. Same as the workforce. the CEO is the top dog and the janitor is the lowest man on the totem pole.

    So TOm Cruise should be paid the same as a first time actresses Jane Doe ?? According to your logic "hey, they're both actors, so they should be paid the same." Not because Cruise's name brings people to see this movie or he does all his own stunts. Nah. He is an actor and so is Jane Doe so they are equals. NO THEY'RE NOT.
     
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  6. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Thanks folks. What was once an interesting discussion has turned into a thread that I will now ignore.
     
  7. Catfish Guest

    no need. I see you're in one of your moods today to pick fights, insult people and prove you're the smartest guy on here with your wit and incredible education you have. why bother? You would argue and put down Stephen Hawking if he were on here about God and the universe.
     
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  8. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    The star of the movie....is gonna get paid the most. Kinda like the best player on most teams is typically earning the highest salary once they reach free agency or get an extension. Why would you even argue that?

    When did I say I want everyone paid the same? I said if you do the same job...like say a plumber or sales manager. Gender shouldn't matter...but a study of salaries and wages will tell you it does.

    Sports and entertainment skews the numbers. All actors aren't equal. Box office drawing power matters and it's going to change things.

    You're arguing something I never said. I didn't say a star of the movie is equal to a supporting actor with few lines.

    I'm sorry comprehension fails you....I can't help you with that.
     
  9. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    You're arguing me, nitwit, not the other way around.

    Stephen Hawking would lean more towards my argument on god than yours, by the way.
     
  10. Catfish Guest

    you say "if they do the same job," but then add in "not if they are the star of the movie." so there is a difference? the star vs a non-star. they are both acting bears?? are they not ?

    not 1 actress who bitched about the money stated the star or co-leads. they just said "all should be paid equal." as bears pointed out - that can't happen as it's on scale from the top star downward.

    well in the case of Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams, people bitched over equal pay over the reshoots for ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD. Well Wahlberg was paid more and this outraged people crying it's unfair. Wahlberg had an agreement to make more if they did reshoots as he was already done filming his scenes and had to go back for 9 more days. Williams' deal only asked for $800 dollars. Wahlberg $1 million! It was an agreement he had in his contract. it wasn't man vs woman. yet all the women out there bitched it wasn't fair. who is the bigger star ? Wahlberg caved in and donated the money to MeToo anyways. But in reality - who is the bigger star there ? it's not just about all actors are equal. or doing the same job. that's what the woman protesters are leaving out.
     
  11. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Being the star versus being a supporting player is a big difference and you know that. Now you're arguing just to argue.

    Every role in a movie or play isn't equal. That argument would be like saying all football players are equal because they all play football.

    What the argument is if they do an equal job...the wage should be equal. That's all I'm arguing. And you keep missing the point...and now it seems like you're doing so on purpose.

    If a man shovels dirt....and a woman shovels the same amount of dirt for the same amount of time....they should get paid the same. In this world...that currently isn't true. That's my argument. If you need me to make it more simple and draw pictures in crayon...let me know.
     
  12. Catfish Guest

    I'm not missing the fucking point bears. as I stated - the women who bitched about this, NOT YOU, are bitching about equal roles and equal pay. they never gave 1 example of when this should be done. not 1 movie where x and y should be paid the same. not 1 movie where x - male made more than y-female. they just got on their soapbox and bitched about equality. show me stats. show me a movie where x and y weren't paid the same. nope. they just cry equality and women of power. demographics and real stats would help this issue. not preaching about it. that's my issue.
     
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  13. Catfish Guest

    like Lyman-I'm out. this thread is not about Me Too anymore.
     
  14. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    #metoo

    I've decided to join the movement.

    I've been raped by stupidity and assaulted with a lack of comprehension.
     
  15. Al in Cal Guest

    The other way around. You as always represent how not to debate anyone. You always lead with offensive attacks and insults and this is just another example. ALso, just because you think that you are the smartest on any subject, you are just the opposite.
     
  16. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    If you could find one time I said I was the smartest on any subject....I’d be very happy to see it.
     
  17. Al in Cal Guest


    So fucking stupid. You do not even know how obtuse you really are.
     
  18. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Does that mean you found somewhere where I said I was the smartest person on any particular subject?

    Because that was your accusation.
     
  19. Al in Cal Guest


    I don't think that is the point he is making. I think his point is that YOU are immature twit and to that I heartily agree. People can argue about a Supreme Being anytime that they want to engage. There are also some smart atheists in this world. I have no problem with them. You are not one of them. You are an immature twit who insults anyone that you disagree with and wants to goad them in fights. ANd your lame insults to Cat are proof of that in spades.
     
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  20. Al in Cal Guest

    Doesn't matter to me. I sure as shit am not going to waste my time "finding" anything at your behest. It well know across this board how smart that you think that you are, meat-head. Sucks hearing the truth, huh?
     
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