Point was those guys are all better so his contract should fall somewhere in the 10-15 range not at the top, but keep trying to think your smarter than everyone else
Yes, they won the East in 2015...so currently, out of 3 years as starter he has made the playoffs once (actually winning their division). That's why I wanted to know how you felt about Stafford and Carr, they also have only been to the playoffs once during the past three years, winning no division titles in the process. In fact neither player has ever won a playoff game. They have a subpar roster, that's why they don't make/win playoff games. Despite what your theories are, very few human beings can simply will their team to victories. Which is why you see a few teams in the Super Bowl numerous times. If you get lucky (no arguing Tom Brady was a lucky pick), you could fall into this situation. The rest of the league has to work very hard to maintain a good roster and fight tooth and nail just to win their division.
No, the point is some players are worth more than others..Some players make the majority of their money being a franchise QB, others make even more BECAUSE they are the franchise QB. This is the United States of America, it was built on commercial capitalism. The law of demand is shown in effect every day of our lives and sports are no different. definition:A microeconomic law that states that, all other factors being equal, as the price of a good or service increases, consumer demand for the good or service will decrease and vice versa. I don't have to be smarter than everyone else, I just need to understand what the hell I am talking about. Economics is something I have studied my whole life and I know a bit about it... If you have a society made up of 32 villages, each village needs a mayor in order to strive in the ways of economic growth. If you have a piss poor mayor, your village starves and the people revolt and replace the mayor in order to survive. All mayors can leave their village based on what the other villages are willing to provide him to utilize his expertise. The only difference between the above example and the NFL is contracts lengths. In the village a mayor can enjoy what ever he chooses if he is willing to move to another village. Now, some of the great mayors may have accumulated enough that living in a well run village with citizens around him that love him are enough to sustain a happy lifetime. Others that have the proper skill set to improve an entire villages life, but may not have accumulated the same compensation over their lifetime because other mayors are better at their job than he is, may choose to accumulate that wealth based on him being the only mayor willing to leave at the time a village is in crisis... So, the best mayor in the colony may get a certain stipend to live and make their village strive and be content as not to force the villagers to accept they can't afford that mayor any longer and move on to a less qualified mayor, forcing him to move elsewhere. These content mayors will live in peace and harmony within their villages. ALL OTHER VILLAGES will then have to fight for the remaining qualified mayors to help them become a striving community..this may mean giving the top mayor AVAILABLE more of a stipend than even the best mayors, because he is willing to move, but only if the ransom is large enough. The NFL has 32 teams.. The top 10 QBs in this league have never hit free agency in their peak careers. No other team has ever had access to them, because they are content where they are and their team (village) compensates them well enough that they would rather stay in an environment they(and most likely their family) enjoy very much. That leaves 22 teams to fend for themselves...no CHANCE for getting one of these top 10 QBs...until their skills have diminished to the point they are no longer top 10 talent. So, when the 11th best QB in the league decides he wants to leave his village...er team....There are 21 other teams fighting to become the team that has the 11th best QB in the league. If you are the team that has had the 30th-32nd worst QB over the course of say...20 YEARS...you are going to be willing to pay more than say the team that has had the 12th best QB over that period. It's cost and demand, plain and simple. The top QBs don't always stay the top paid QBs, because they are content and their team compensates them accordingly. They don't get into the bidding wars of capitalism. Now, you can keep all of your money and not participate in these bidding wars (which almost NEVER come along to begin with, in fact, in the Super Bowl era, I can't remember another QB hitting free agency of this caliber, so yeah, pretty rare stuff here.) and you can also stay the team that ranks near last each and every year in the most important position category in the league. It really is your choice...Just don't bitch a year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years or 5 years down the road when that QB your team could have signed is in the top ten and your QB is still ranking around 25-32 and your team isn't in the playoffs...not because of your roster, but because of a single position.
A couple other notes... And it's been Allbright (who's a Denver-area journalist) that's reported the link between Cousins and the Broncos with multiple folks now corroborating. We're going to have to level-set here when Kirk Cousins isn't the QB and Saquon Barkley isn't a choice for us at #1 or #4.
lol! It's like talking to a brick wall. Do you really think anybody is arguing that Cousins is a better QB than Brady, Brees, Ben or Rodgers? smh. Because if you do, it just magnifies your inability to comprehend wth we are even talking about.
And here is my worry... We don't sign Cousins(Denver), the Chiefs send Smith to Jacksonville and the Browns end up having to settle on someone like Chase Daniel Here is the list of the top QBs according to Gregg Rosenthal, with overall free agency ranking in italics: 1.(1) Jimmy Garoppolo (will re-sign in San Fran) 2.(2) Kirk Cousins (signs with Denver) 3.(3) Drew Brees (has already publicly stated he will be in New Orleans No Matter What) 4.(7) Teddy Bridgewater, Do we want to be the team to risk that knee? I wouldn't be opposed depending on price 5.(14) Case Keenum, he had a great run, was it BECAUSE of the Vikings, or is he legit? One hit wonder syndrome could set us back 6.(21) Sam Bradford, injury just waiting to happen. I don't mind his skill set, it's the FACT the next in line better be ready because he WILL play. That's it for top 25 overall free agent rankings....and they also listed 14 notable omissions, of which NONE were QBs.. The other notable QBs available(in order of ranking from Walter Football): A.J. McCarron (expected to get Restricted FA tag) Josh McCown, he won't return to Cleveland even if they wanted him Geno Smith, It's hard to believe we could end up with a QB as low as Smith, yet that could be staring us in the face... I won't even comment on the remaining since they are ranked below Geno Smith, that says it all: Ryan Fitzpatrick Matt Moore Jay Cutler I'm stopping there and leaving you with local fan option Chase Daniel who was #27 down on the list of undesirables... The other option is trade for Alex Smith, if he goes to someone like Jacksonville... So...we could be looking for a guy who can start in 2018 in the draft... Here is the (point based) rankings of QBs from our very own Tim @ L4SN: Anyone want Mason Rudolph to be the #1 overall pick in this draft? If not, based on the points, they get exponentially worse after him, including my own personal favorite of Baker Mayfield who is 49 points behind him. If anyone is confused, shoot Tim a PM sometime and let him explain how painstakingly he ranks these players, it is very impressive. So...we can end up with a draft that looks like this: Mason Rudolph (#1 QB) Minkah Fitzpatrick (#1 S) Sony Michel (#6 RB, 49 points behind Barkley) Auden Tate (#4 WR) This will be disappointing...
I really don't see any chance of Rudolph being the top quarterback selected, the same as there was never a chance that Jimmy G would go #1 overall when we had him ranked as the top quarterback in his class. And to compare the two, Jimmy scored out slightly higher than Rudolph. Right now I believe Sam Darnold will be the first pick off the board to the Browns.
I will make you a @showstopper promise right now that there's zero percent chance Mason Rudolph gets drafted at #1 overall.
Here's another worry... what if we do sign Kirk Cousins? Is he still a 65+ percent passer on Cleveland's team? He's not a very good intermediate or down-field passer, so he doesn't fit Hue Jackson's offense at all. I see folks repeating the line that he doesn't have a roster to win games in Washington... they went 7-9. What position group does Cleveland outrank Washington at? If he's a sub-500 QB with a slightly-below average roster, what is he on this team? Now, you've got a QB who doesn't fit the system, doesn't have the talent to elevate the players around him, AND you've committed $30+ million a year to him, limiting the number of other blue chip players you can add to help him out. Let Denver have him.
In case you're wondering what PFF.com thought... (CLE/WAS) QB: Washington 51.1 / 78.9 RB: Washington 62.8 / 77.5 FB: Cleveland 52.4 / 42.6 WR1: Cleveland 82.1 / 57.7 WR2: Washington 45.9 / 72.9 TE: Cleveland 69.0 / 40.7 LT: Washington* 47.7 / 82.1 *Thomas = 86.4 LG: Cleveland 85.2 / 49.0 C: Cleveland 70.5 / 56.0 RG: Washington 81.1 / 83.2 RT: Washington 53.6 / 71.4 LDE: Tied 75.7 / 75.6 *Obgah = 72.6 DT1: Cleveland 81.5 / 71.4 DT3: Cleveland 68.9 / 49.6 RDE: Cleveland 88.4 / 79.2 LOLB: Washington 43.9 / 85.6 ILB: Cleveland 77.4 / 75.4 ROLB: Washington 59.6 / 76.0 LCB: Cleveland 83.9 / 79.0 FS: Cleveland 72.4 / 51.5 SS: Washington 45.5 / 83.6 RCB: Washington 73.1 / 79.1
So if hes not better than those guys why would he make more $ than them....let someone else take that mess of a contract
This can't come as a surprise....older QBs want a chance to win right away....somebody stated Jville...that would be a good fit for him
Alex Smith is not a free agent. He is not in control of this. His thoughts on our situation are irrelevant.
