So you talk bout Colt McCoy in another post w glowing reviews but a guy who started a lot more games than McCoy in the NFL in Flutie isn't comparable....gotcha
Well it's not like he went on to start anywhere else, but I thought the Colt McCoy pick was a good one. Sadly, he's one of the better QB's we've drafted...I'd take him over Kizer, Kessler, Weeden or Quinn, any day...I was at the stadium for Colt's best NFL performance. People were giving their tickets away dirt cheap because nobody had any faith we could win. I got 2 seats in row 1 of the loge section, about 40 yard line, for like $60. Couldn't pass it up....I just remember the weather was perfect and it was the peak of Ohio's fall foliage. Great time to travel, so even though I expected doom, we made the trip to Cleveland...Then the amazing happened. Behind the power running game of Peyton Hillis, the Browns hammered the Patriots. Colt McCoy had a great day as well, and that was easily the most fun I've had in the new stadium...The place was rockin that day. Browns fans don't get enough of those, that's for sure...
The only similarity I can honestly see is between Keenum and Mayfield. They are both short and have to search for passing lanes. They are both able to move pretty well, and throw on the run because they have to. They both showed outstanding completion percentage in 2017, in spite of height disadvantage. If I had to match the others, I'd say; Alex Smith - Josh Rosen ; Similar size. Both were considered the most pro ready of their draft class. Both throw accurate deep ball. Kirk Cousins- Riley Ferguson; Same height. Both slender similar pro style QB's...
I thought I did answer it the way you were looking for. I think we've hit it at least in another thread, but if the Browns somehow do land Kirk Cousins, it seems doubtful they'd be using an early pick on a QB. They'd likely either grab a "value guy" in the R2-R3 range, or wait until R5-R7. As for the other two, Keenum has only ever been a spot starter before this season, so it's unclear what his durability would be. Alex Smith has missed time here or there, but since being traded to Kansas City has been extremely reliable, starting 76 of 80 contests. As for the system matching the guy (and his backup), Hue showed no inclination to adjust his traditional offense to Kizer's strengths - even foregoing using him as a runner late in the season which he was actually really good at. Looking back on 2016, Hue really did keep most of his traditional approach in place. He benched Kessler at times for not taking shots down field and still managed to log 567 pass attempts (despite six guys playing the position for him) versus 574 this season. This was again incredibly unbalanced against the run - 350 attempts (59 from QBs) in 2016 against 384 (87 from QBs) in 2017. Grossly, the non-QB attempts in 291 that Hue said himself was "inexcusable" improved to 297 the next year. +6.
I've posted it before, but if you haven't read it (and since we're going down Memory Lane), the McCoy article he wrote a while back was a good one: Get Back Up He talks about the injury he suffered in the Alabama game that really changed his career projection. He was told he'd be able to spend his entire rookie season rehabbing the shoulder.
No, I addressed the fact that the reason YOU compared them was because they were both Heisman Winners...To me that's lazy. Otherwise, I wouldn't say Colt McCoy's style is similar to Flutie either...I'm talking style comparison, nothing else...
I didnt just compare them cause their Heisman winners....their similar in stature and will make plays outside of the pocket and be inconsistent in the pocket....I also said Mayfield was a little better than Flutie
Flutie: 5'10" 180 pounds Mayfield: 6'0" 220 pounds Baker Mayfield leads the NCAA with a 146.6 passer rating from the pocket. He set the NCAA record for passer efficiency. Twice. "Inconsistent". Flutie (college): 52.8% comp., 10,759 yards, 70 TD, 56 INT, 130.9 QB rating, 32-14-1 (0.681 record) Mayfield (college): 68.5% comp., 14,607 yards, 131 TD, 30 INT, 175.4 QB rating, 39-9 (0.813 record) A l i t t l e b e t t e r t h a n F l u t i e
Games TD Int Fumbles QB#1 29 59 26 20 QB#2 27 57 22 21 QB#3 27 44 21 13 QB#4 48 131 30 22 QB#5 42 92 26 19 No matter how much I go back and look at film I still can't even consider QB#1 or QB#2 before the late second or early third. Both QB's struggled with ball security. Which QB would you want Lounge Houndz? FYI I hope that Dorsey get's the QB room right. I have a feeling that he'll look to add a veteran and draft a QB early.
There is no real current QB U in terms of success. USC has pumped out prospects but the only Carson Palmer has truly been successful. If you go through QBs throughout the NFL's history the only true QB U is probably Purdue although Drew Brees is the only QB they've had in forever.
Baker Mayfield's passer rating just from the pocket (146.6) is better than all of 24 other QB's overall rating. Josh Allen's total rating is 127.8. Josh Rosen's total rating is 146.3. Sam Darnold's total rating is 148.1. Lamar Jackson's total rating is 146.6.
