This puts a point on it, though you had me thinking for a minute there pat, because to me, Schwartz is an asshat of biblical proportions, but maybe some of that is the fact that he played for a rival. I remember hating McDaniels during his short stint with Denver. Yet somehow I would be ok with him. blang buddy though, we are hoping for him to have been humbled. Given how shitwad turned out (McDaniels was right?), and that he's on the Pats....I dunno. There's no Arians out there this time. I want someone with hope to lead this team to the future. Whether that's offense, or someone defense minded who hires a good OC/QBs coach. Either way. And hopefully whoever it is, is mostly a fit for the existing personnel.
It alters perception and now you limit yourself being okay with one fucktard but not another. I agree with Blang, McDaniels has more accolades and a more appealing resume than Schwartz when we start talking about what the bears need. Do you want the guy who won rings calling offensive plays and shredding defenses or some irrelevant schmuck who coached the Lions some years ago with nothing further of note other than after he failed he went to Buffalo then Philly, albeit doing what he does best--good 4-3 defenses? I remember Schwartz sending "boy named Suh" after players, stomping, targeting, cheap-shotting. I don't need reminding how genuinely undisciplined his teams were that stone-faced, conservative Lovie couldn't screw it up. But amid his undisciplined coaching and cheap-shotting, the guy who ordered his assistant to film his opponent's practices, then played dumb when he got caught and then fired the same week should not get a pass with an explanation of "well, he's had 7 years to mature, hopefully he's not the same fucktard" should not be extended a better courtesy. Grade them both on their interview objectively and hold them to the same standard. If Pace has balls and does his damn homework, he asks McDaniels about that shit situation, and Schwartz about his targeting/immaturity/jackassery. I get it, we don't want Detroit's sloppy seconds, and we've wasted more time debating Schwartz as a candidate than time he's actually worth talking about. Outside looking in (obviously we're not in the interview room), he runs a different defensive scheme and has no offensive buddy to pair with to make Trubisky take the next step. I don't have to speculate, because in fact, the guy after him (Caldwell) got the most out of that quarterback he drafted in 2009. I would say interview him and hold him to the same standards, which I get the feeling with other fans I've talked with who share the same opinion of the guy; if he's the same dumbass we remember, he wont get the job anyways. But you're doing yourself a disservice in objectivity holding one fucktard to a completely different standard than another, with a big influence/blind spot being how familiar we are with him, because he coached the Lions. He's being interviewed by more than one team, so maybe he has learned a trick or two. Or maybe he's the product of Carson Wentz and Philly's high octane offense. Hopefully, Pace is competent enough to be able to discern that--but that's a can of worms I'm avoiding.
And if he's not then hopefully the Bears pick up on it during the interview because there will be not one, not two, but three men in the room listening to him. It's not a pass if the guy owns up to having made that stupid mistake. I never said McDaniels had changed, only that I hoped he had. This is not a matter of extending McDaniels better courtesy. To me Schwartz is an idiot who encouraged his team to play dirty/undisciplined and adopt a sore loser mentality PLUS he has nothing to offer intellectually or innovatively as a coach. That much can be gained by looking at each of their resumes and hearing them speak. For that, I see no reason why the Bears would even consider Schwartz.
I agree completely with you. This, I guess is his last chance with the Bears in choosing a coaching staff. I kind of fear that a good coach may not want to come to the Bears because of Pace and the two dummies that are going with him on his interviews. I said last year that what the Bears needed was to hire Tom Coughlin as their GM and let him build the coaching staff and organization. He isn't pretty but he knows all aspects of football and does mess around. What he did with JVille is pretty damn impressive to me. Well, they missed the boat on that and I don't know how many other Tom Coughlin's exist in the world today.
Again though if he doesn't want to be there is he really going to have a positive effect on a young QB? If he doesn't get along with the head coach and doesn't want to be there he is going to be a malcontent and that isn't good for a young qb. If you are winning perhaps it gets overlooked but if you are loosing he would have just become more and more of a malcontent most likely. There is also the possibility if he doesn't want to be there he doesn't sign the Franchise tag tender and sits out for the year.
Tom Coughlin or someone like him replacing Teddy is every Bears fans wet dream but Tom Coughlin isn’t a GM. Nor should he be. To give him full credit for the turnaround in Jacksonville is misplaced. Give him credit for getting them over the hump, but years of good drafting and FA acquisitions is what made that possible.
Most Bears fans did say NO!!! Pace, apparently isn't a Bears fan. Interesting side note since you tangented over to Pace... Worst record over a 3 year span for an GM in the history of the team. Got an extension. Ted Thomson, after a 7-9 season when his HOF Qb was out for 9 games? Get's the boot. just tells you something about our GM and the fucktards who employ him.
Pace is set to interview Nagy tomorrow, Sunday. It should be the quickest interview ever after that total meltdown by KC today. It felt as if Fox/Loggains were running the show. After Kelce when out they had no game, zero second-half adjustments on O except somehow, one of the NFL’s leading rushers only had like 5 touches in the last 3 quarters. While this turned into a classic Andy Reid coached game, in my mind Nagy’s stock dropped to zero-point-shit.
I honestly don't think he has the inside track anyway. I really hope we grab Shurmer. But, what happened today kinda sealed the deal for him.
Sitton picked us, not vice-versa. He fell in Paces lap.... Yes, he signed him. But Sitton was trying to stick it to the Packers and didn't even consider another team. They released him on the 3rd when he criticized McCaarthy. We signed him, literally, the next day. Unrein? A middle tier journeyman defensive player who should be the depth/back-up player to Bullard except that Bullard (drafted by Pace) is woefully underperforming. And Trevethan?? He was supposed to be our All-pro ILB. Consistently injured and other than a few plays here or there, has basically been a non-factor. With 2 of those guys, I agree with you that he went out and got them, but I think crediting him with getting them is a false positive. I "blame" him for those guys... He gets zero credit for Sitton. Sitton gets credit for Sitton.
Hold on a second. We all know that the Packers fate is tied to Aaron Rodgers. We’ve all talked about how they are mediocre at best without Erin. If you look at the games they won without Erin, it wasn’t pretty. I have always contended that the Packers didn’t draft that well, but they were able to retain their picks because they could, regardless of actual talent. Because Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback and they win solely because of that fact. When was the last time you saw a big free agent plucked away from the Packers? They live and die with Rodgers, period.
It doesn't happen often, but... CB Micah Hyde (985 snaps in 2016) to the Bills. They also lost some other players too, but Hyde was the biggest one.
I was screaming for the Bears to sign Hyde last offseason. So was patg i believe. But noooooo. That would've been too obvious for Grand Master Pace. I love how one of the reasons Pace was spouting for signing Glennon was that he'd spent 3 years in the same division as Glennon and got to see first hand Just. How. Good. Glennon was. I guess we weren't watching Packers games the last 2years then huh Pace? Hyde btw has just been voted to his first pro bowl. And while im being a smug bastard, the year before i wanted them to sign Casey Hayward, who wasn't even going to be expensive. Hayward just got voted to his second pro bowl in two years. But thats ok cos we signed gems like Quintin Demps and Marcus Cooper. More stellar work from the Boy Blunder.
Yes his qb was injured and exposed how bad of a team he had put on the field around him that is what got him fired.
I’m not disagreeing that the Bears need a coughlin type person. Just that it doesn’t need to be in place of a GM. Putting someone like that above the GM and setting Teddy out to pasture would be the way to go.
I’m still all for the Bears going after Matt Canada. If hired along with a savvy defensive coordinator I simply don’t see the downside.
If your going to beat up Pace for moves he didn’t make you should also give him credit for putting together a defensive backfield that finished 7th against the pass.
I'll give you that. My main point is that they need a person in charge of football like Tom Coughlin.
