2018 NFL Draft | Quarterbacks

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by SAS, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers


    Looks like they're ALL going.
     
  2. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    SAS | Top 5 Prospects

    1 - Baker Mayfield
    2 - Lamar Jackson
    3 - Josh Rosen
    4 - Ryan Finley
    5 - Sam Darnold

    The 2019 QB class (early look-ahead) is now officially trash.
     
  3. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    That said... the overwhelming thought right now is that the Browns will have to pick between Rosen and Darnold at #1. I don't like it, but until something dramatic changes, it's likely the reality we're facing.

    If that is that case...

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  4. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

     
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  5. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Part of the reason Dorsey's loading up with talent evaluators. They absolutely must remove Hue Jackson 100% from the decision-making process.
     
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  6. Duff_Beer_Doug Franchise Player Browns Indians C&D Club

    Geez......glass half full or half empty?

    For SAS it's just completely empty and there is no refill service available.

    Cheer up my friend. It's just all silly season and all speculation until FA rolls around. Hope springs eternal, right? Maybe we do get Cousins and a couple of other nice pieces in FA before the draft. Until my offseason hopes are dashed, I choose to believe........After all, isn't the Browns official motto "Wait 'Til Next Year?.............(and no I haven't been to Colorado lately :smokey:)

    Where's Irish at? He's our champion of the optimistic view.
     
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  7. I have to ask how can you have Jackson ahead of Darnold and Rosen? I think thats complete nonsense
     
  8. crextin Franchise Player Browns

    I get the love for Mayfield.

    Why is no one here talking about Mason Rudolph?

    This guy is going to check just about every box.

    6'-5" 230lbs.

    Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
    *2014
    Oklahoma State Big 12 FR QB 3 49 86 57.0 853 9.9 9.2 6 4 154.0
    *2015 Oklahoma State Big 12 SO QB 13 264 424 62.3 3770 8.9 8.9 21 9 149.1
    *2016 Oklahoma State Big 12 JR QB 13 284 448 63.4 4091 9.1 10.0 28 4 158.9
    2017 Oklahoma State Big 12 SR QB 13 318 489 65.0 4904 10.0 10.7 37 9 170.6
    Career Oklahoma State 915 1447 63.2 13618 9.4 9.9


    As of know I'd take Rudolph over anyone except perhaps Mayfield. I know need to do some more research.

    I also know that I definitely do not want Rosen or Darnold. Neither QB impressed me when I watched them.

    Mayfiled>Rudolph>>>>>>>> Everyone else in the class...
     
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  9. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Jackson is a guy who's shown improvement every season, including growth from throwing within the pocket. He's 6'3" and 215 pounds with 4.4 speed and a plus arm. He plays with a poor supporting cast offensively (most drops among draft-eligible QBs) and still showed the growth.

    He's got more career rushing yards than Saquon Barkley.
     
  10. Dogside18 Franchise Player Browns

    Lets look at


    QB A
    Class
    G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
    FR 1 1 3 33.3 8 2.7 2.7 0 0 55.7
    SO 3 15 24 62.5 248 10.3 11.8 4 1 196.0
    JR 13 342 511 66.9 4277 8.4 8.6 34 13 154.1
    SR 13 409 565 72.4 4727 8.4 8.6 37 13 159.

    Career 767 1103 69.5 9260 8.4 8.7 75 27 157.6



    QB B
    Class
    G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
    FR 3 49 86 57.0 853 9.9 9.2 6 4 154.0
    SO 13 264 424 62.3 3770 8.9 8.9 21 9 149.1
    JR 13 284 448 63.4 4091 9.1 10.0 28 4 158.9
    SR 13 318 489 65.0 4904 10.0 10.7 37 9 170.6

    Career
    915 1447 63.2 13618 9.4 9.9



    If you can figure out who QBA and QBB are, I think you will determine why Mason Rudolph is overlooked.

    Both guys look pretty consistent.

    Considering A's 2 years as a starter and Rudolphs last 2 years, QBA threw more passes, completed more, had a higher percentage, had 9 more yards and 6 more TDs while also having 13 more INTs.

    Can you name QB A?
     
  11. firehalo Guest

    Weeden
     
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  12. So he's a RB playing QB..now I see
     
  13. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    @firehalo got it... pretty sure it's Weeden.

    Could be Zac Robinson, if we're going back into the OSU (Cowboy) QB well. Robinson's numbers were pretty comparable, too, which was part of the reason I championed so hard pre-draft against Weeden.
     
  14. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    They said the same thing about Dak Prescott.
     
  15. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    LOL - Would you believe that's with optimism?

    Dunno, man... tough to get jazzed about anything (even a Mayfield, Barkley/Fitzpatrick Top 4) with Hue Jackson looming around the corner. Not sure there's enough talent in the world to overcome his many, many limitations as a head coach and play-caller.

    Then Dorsey figures to sh*t on my heart and take Sam Darnold #1 overall.
     
  16. Prescott stinks cmon u saw when he had to win games
     
  17. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Career 65.2% completion, 45-17 TD/INT ratio, 22-10 as a starter, QB rating of 95.5, and 12 rushing TDs to boot.

    "Dak Prescott stinks"
     
  18. I will stick w my post...he stinks and we saw that when Zeke was out
     
  19. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Prescott doesn't stink but he isn't as good as the help made him appear.
     
  20. Fair enough....he's not a franchise QB
     

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