In my honest opinion, I think Josh Gordon could be Top-5 in the NFL with the right QB throwing the football to him every week.
This is probably the most important aspect of this discussion. But to further it just a little - if the Browns do draft a quarterback with that top pick (and I think this is largely dependent on the winner of the power struggle between Hue and the front office) then that pick will benefit greatly by having Gordon in the fold. I beat the same drum every year pre and post draft. The situations that these young athletes get selected into will largely dictate their immediate worth and how quickly they will develop as a pro. Having a sober Josh Gordon, a healthy Corey Coleman and a starting David Njoku will have a huge impact on a rookie signal caller in Cleveland. I believe the line can be solid in both pass protection and in run blocking with the caveat that the Browns need to scrap Crowell as a feature back, not entertain the idea of Duke as a feature back and spend an early pick on a rusher that can be a 3 down thumper with real pass receiving skills. It doesn't have to be the next pick in the first round and they may be able to steal one in the mids (pretty solid selection of mid-types this year) but it is another imperative to improve the situation for whomever they select.
Smh. Nobody is asking you to declare him the best...For some reason, you can't see the obvious, in that Gordon is a complete stud on the football field. So simply acknowledging that he's a talented NFL WR, and a clear threat to any defense, would have sufficed...Instead, you make a wisecrack. Typical...
SAS is talking in absolutes.....Im talking bout a guy who had one good yr....thats a fact....every player has potential
Been there, done that. Lead the league in rcvg yards in 2013 despite only playing 14 of 16 games. And, he did this with Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer as his QB's.
Week 13 only. Most Sensible, Marginally-Informed Football Fans: "Yep, that seems about right. Gordon could have had a huge game with better QB accuracy." @showstopper: "fake news! Josh Gordon iz bust. covered up ultra-tight by defense. justa guy."
Tore it up in yds, but only had 9 TDs....11 other WRs had the same amount or more...oh and he has 14 total TDs in 36 career games.....some WRs have 14 TDs in a season(Nelson '16) and (B. Marshall, A. Robinson and Baldwin '15)
Coulda woulda shoulda.....the Browns could be 12-0 and NE could be 0-12....again show me where he was open on those pass routes?
By this inane, and clearly anti-Gordon stance, Julius Thomas (2014) was the best receiver of all time: 489 receiving yards, 12 receiving touchdowns. The only other player in NFL history to post less than 500 yards but more than 10 touchdowns was John "Blood" McNally back in 1931 - and that's only because they didn't keep track of yardage.
Who was throwing to Nelson? ... aaaaannnnnd Who was throwing to Gordon? Right. Lyman already answered that.
Nobody is arguing his history! We are talking about his viability as an NFL WR..We are all well aware he's missed many games due to suspension...Geez, do you do this on purpose? SAS nailed it...It really is pigeon chess with you. Definition of pigeon chess: Refers to having a pointless debate with somebody utterly ignorant of the subject matter, but standing on a dogmatic position that cannot be moved with any amount of education or logic, but who always proclaims victory.
First miss: Gordon has more than a step on the cornerback. A well-placed ball would have resulted in a 49-yard touchdown. Second miss: Gordon runs a curl. Pass is six yards wide and high. On-target pass would have been a minimum of seven yards gained on 1st and 10. Third miss: Gordon is covered but because the throw is so off. This could have been a miscommunication between WR/QB regarding the depth of the route, but the ball left Kizer's hand before Gordon had attempted to stop his curl route. Fourth miss: The ball flutters badly and Gordon, who's already started to slow in the still (he was two steps ahead in the prior frame) has to continue to slow down and acts like the defender on this play to break up the interception. Led appropriately, this was at least a 27-yard reception - given his stride and speed, it's more likely a 63-yard touchdown. Fifth miss: Would be a contested catch, but we saw him make two of these already to this point. Ball sails out of his reach by a solid 2-3 yards. Should have been a 29-yard reception. Sixth miss: This one's in the dirt, Gordon nor the DB have any shot at it. Seventh miss: Pass is high and behind Gordon as he leaves his feet. He out-jumps the defender cleanly. Would have come down in the endzone for a 15-yard touchdown pass. Overall, inaccurate passes should have resulted in at least five more receptions for 127 yards and 2 touchdowns. Me, not a WR coach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
Gordon graded out 82.9 per PFF.com in his debut. To be clear, it was 1,077 days since his last NFL game. His 82.9 grade would be good for 10th in the League.
You could scratch the third one and the fifth one, due to coverage, but STILL ... the other FIVE are legit misses on the QB.
