Maybe . . . Maybe not. 2011 is the first of five straight playoff seasons for the Bengals. Of those five years, two were division champions (2013 and 2015). Your question prompted me to take a closer look at how they pulled that off. Beginning in 2006, the Bengals drafted 5 defensive players in the 1st or 2nd round, 2 offensive linemen and 3 offensive "skilled" players. In other words, they built their roster first and then, in 2011, added their QB and WR1. Sound familiar?
Nope. Hue Jackson was the head coach of the Oakland Raiders in 2011. Jay Gruden was the offensive coordinator and Ken Zampese was the QB coach in Cincinnati when Dalton was a rookie. Hue Jackson was an assistant secondary coach in 2012 for Cincinnati after being fired from Oakland after one season. Hue Jackson was the running backs coach in 2013 for Cincinnati. Dalton was developed by someone else for three seasons before Hue took over as offensive coordinator. Ken Zampese was still the quarterbacks coach both seasons Hue served as offensive coordinator.
Good catch, Sammy. I focused on when players were added to their roster and forgot about Hue's timeline.
Obviously...It was very early in the morning...give me a break Nope, the Eagles are NOT going to the Super Bowl, let alone winning it....They are close, but they don't have the experience to get there...They will lose...
Re: Offensive Coordinator Hue Jackson has been an offensive coordinator for: Washington (2003): 22nd in points, 23rd in yards, 5-11 record, QB: Patrick Ramsey, Tim Hasselbeck Atlanta (2007): 29th in points, 22nd in yards, 4-12 record, QB: Joey Harrington, Chris Redman, Byron Leftwich Oakland (2010): 6th in points, 10th in yards, 5-11 record, QB: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski Cincinnati (2014): 15th in points, 15th in yards, 10-5-1 record, QB: Andy Dalton Cincinnati (2015): 7th in points, 15th in yards, 12-4 record, QB: Andy Dalton Hue Jackson has been a QB coach for: Baltimore (2008): Joe Flacco (80.3 QB rating, 185.7 YPG, 60.0% completion, 14 TD, 12 INT) Baltimore (2009): Joe Flacco (88.9 QB rating, 225.8 YPG, 63.1% completion, 21 TD, 12 INT)
I would bet that Seattle, Carolina or Atlanta are not making the Super Bowl. They are the only team that fit the criteria and with 3 better teams right now I wouldn't count on it. Saints don't count as experienced.
Huh? I don't know about that. If a team is confident and good, they don't have to have post season experience to go all the way...That's nonsense. If Philly continues to roll through the second half of the season in similar fashion to their first half, they aren't just contenders, but I'd say the favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Who's gonna stop em? At their current clip they'd wind up 14-2, with home field advantage throughout the postseason.....I could come up with a ton of teams that wound up in the Super Bowl without previous SB experience...
Watch out for Carolina...They are getting Olson back, and right now I'd say Philly/Carolina looks like a strong possibility for NFC Championship. Don't count out the Rams either...That's another team with no postseason experience that I could see making a run.
How does Depodesta and analytics get blamed for Kizer when there's not a single analytical tool that pointed to Kizer being good?
My take; Analytics, as deployed by DePodesta's strategy, covers way more than player evaluations. In Kizer's case, the strategy dictated trading down out of 12 to garner additional draft picks. By the time Kizer was selected, he probably was the pick of the litter that was still available.
Link. Remember, they're all in the room together on draft day. Sashi, Hue, the coaches, Jimmy... so there had to be a discussion about Watson, Hooker, and the trade-down. Sashi: "Hue... do you want to take Watson here?" Hue: "I want to take Hooker." Williams: "Peppers over Hooker." Sashi: "Fine, let's shop this thing and see what we get."
Wild that there's a very real possibility NFC Championship Game could come down to Carson Wentz's Eagles against Jared Goff's Rams. Likewise, the Buccaneers (3-6), Colts (3-7), and Bears (3-6) likely finish with five or fewer wins on the season. Serves as a very clear reminder that everyone who says "draft a QB and build around him" are dopes.
I gave you a direct quote from Hue Jackson, via his media mouthpiece, Michael Silver. You gave me "I'm pretty sure".
Flip this for a minute. The team decided that neither Hooker nor Watson were the right choice at #12 and traded down. What if Sashi - who makes the final calls - overrode everyone in the room and selected Watson? We'd all be giddy now since it looks like Watson is legit... but what if Watson looked worse than Kizer? We'd all be furious the defacto GM co-opted the draft and forced a player on the coaches they didn't want.
I still maintain that Watson = RGIII. The only difference is that the Redskins got a full season out of the rookie, RGIII whereas the Texans lost the rookie, Watson not even halfway through his first season to injury. How long do you think Watson would have survived running for his life in Cleveland? Probably about as long as RGIII did.
Weirdly, we're arguing but I don't think we're disagreeing too much. I even am saying let you have your pound of flesh and replace Paul DePodesta with Team President Peyton Manning. I agree... I did not want Cleveland to take Deshaun Watson. I didn't think this team was ready to start a rookie QB. I wanted Cody Kessler to hold down the spot, manage games, and allow a running game and defense find itself and grow into dominant units since it seemed our heavy investments in offensive and defensive lines seemed to indicate that's the direction we were headed. I always believed Year 3 was the year we picked up our rookie QB and allowed him to start once they were up to speed. Ideally, the incumbent (Kessler) would have developed into a solid Alex Smith-like option who wasn't going to cost the team victories.
