2017 Season The Good, Bad and Ugly

Dude, I'm laughing at the obviousness of your statement..."I would tell the QB to throw it out in front of me on the 5 yard slant, and NOT behind me". lol! I just found it humorous.

I mean c'mon...

I'm not making fun of your coaching. Just the post...btw; Post is also a football term. When you want the receiver to get vertical down the field and then angle toward the goal post, it's called a post pattern...

do ya see what I mean?

 

I know you mentioned it before, but who is the NFL'r? I wanna say Garcon...or maybe different Mount Union guy?

 

I love Saquon....I do NOT love Mayfield

Jets are DEFINITELY taking a QB in this scenario. I would trade up to San Fran if you are worried about Mayfield be taken by them rather than losing out on Rosen. Hell, I'm not even sure if Mayfield hits the 6'0" mark. He's listed at 6'1", but we already went through that with Manziel, and frankly, I don't have him ranked as highly as Manziel coming out of college. He would be an upgrade as I don't think he has any drug or alcohol issues, but I certainly wouldn't take him top 5. Although, someone will...

IF Rosen comes out next year and the Browns have #1 overall, you almost have to take him, or trade down as any team that isn't planning on drafting him would get a bounty for him. I think he is probably the best QB to come out since Luck...But, I would like to see more film on him before making that determination.

It would take a pretty large leap from Kizer now till the end of December to determine we don't "need" a QB for this team. I adamantly admit that at this point of the season, despite my "excuses" for him.

 

Well, the Britt catch turned INT was about 13 yards down field, and I don't think it was a "bullet" by pro standards, nothing like you would get from Favre. Yet, it isn't considered a drop by this service SAS keeps referencing.

 

from Cleveland.com

5 reasons DeShone Kizer is confident he and his receivers will step it up

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- DeShone Kizer has tumbled to 32nd in the NFL with a 53.3 rating largely because he’s not getting production out of his receivers.

But he’s confident things will improve as the season goes along, even before 2016 No. 15 overall pick Corey Coleman returns from his broken hand, either Nov. 19 against the Jaguars or sometime thereafter.

During Sunday’s 31-28 loss to the Colts, Kizer had eight passes dropped, including three by Ricardo Louis. Tight end Seth DeValve dropped one at the Colts’ 20, and Kenny Britt failed to secure one that went off his hands and was picked off.

Hue Jackson acknowledged that there’s no star receiver coming in to save the day, and that the current players will have to get better.

Here are five reasons Kizer is confident they will.
1. They'll work overtime to get it right
Kizer, a perfectionist, was often seen out on the practice field after training camp practices correcting mistakes and reciting plays. Given the struggles he’s had with his receivers, they’ll work overtime after practice to develop their timing and rhythm.

“You just have to continue to work on your craft,’’ he said. “This is a game where you have to always be getting better because as soon as you are not upping your game, you’re getting worse. It is my job to make sure that each day in practice that I am out there working my butt off to become a more accurate passer, work my butt off to run the ball a little better and have better timing with the guys who are out there with me.”

In addition to spending time together on the field, Kizer will watch more film with his receivers and spend more time getting to know them outside of football.

2. He'll work on his accuracy
Jackson attributed Kizer's interception intended for Kasen Williams at the Colts' 3 as not enough "time on task." Williams was signed by the Browns after the final cuts in September, and Kizer is still developing chemistry with him. They’ve been together less than three weeks. What’s more, Kizer split the first-team reps all offseason, so he hasn’t had a full allotment of time with his skill players yet.

“Accuracy is a combination of not only the mechanics of the quarterback and the footwork and those things, but it has a lot to do with timing,’’ he said. “It’s going to be on us to make sure that we get back out there as soon as we possibly can to work on that timing and have the chemistry needed to make sure that when I do throw a ball early that it is exactly where he expects it to be so he can come down with the ball.”

Jackson believes that Kizer is making the right decisions, but his ball placement is sometimes off.

"The ball is going to the right person," said Jackson. "The ball is just not in the right spot more so than anything (on some of the seven picks)."


3. He'll work to throw a catchable ball
Kizer has a strong arm. But sometimes, he might need to take a little off of it to make sure it’s catchable. What’s more, he’s still learning to work under center, slide the protections and put receivers in motion. He’s got a lot on his plate. But it’s coming. Occasionally, he might need just a tad more touch on some of the short and intermediate passes.

“It goes back to timing,’’ he said. “Every route requires a certain ball and every situation the defense gives you requires a certain ball for a receiver to come down with it. It’s on me to once again evaluate that defender, evaluate how we are running our route and make sure that the ball is exactly where it needs to be.”



4. The more games together, the better they'll get
Not only is Kizer new, but so are many of his receivers. Kenny Britt, who hasn’t hit his stride yet, is still learning the offense. Through three games, he’s caught five passes for 69 yards. At that pace, he’ll finish with 27 receptions for 368 yards, a far cry from the 1,000 yards he had last season.

Kizer has also been throwing to guys on Sunday who were called up from the practice squad just days before, including Rashard Higgins and Jordan Leslie.

The Browns didn’t do enough to upgrade the position this season, and they’re paying the price.
What’s more, those nuances of how a receiver plays a DB or how he likes the ball placed just aren’t there yet.

But Kizer believes they just need more games together.

"I’ve been in this building for four or five months," he said. "There are quite a few other guys who have been in this building for four or five months. We’re growing every day.

"Once again, it is just a matter of continuing to stay on the same line, stay on the same path and grinding it out together, and hopefully, experiencing some wins with that."
5. They're playing for their jobs
Ricardo Louis, last year's fourth-round pick out of Auburn, had a particularly bad game in Indy, catching only one of his six targets for 10 yards and dropping three passes.

“At the end of the day, these guys are trying the best they can,’’ said Jackson. “What we have to do is continue to put them in situations so that they can have success and get better.”

But young players such as Louis and Higgins, last year’s fifth-round pick, know they have to produce to keep their jobs. Higgins has already been cut once by the Browns this season. Louis knows he can’t have another game like he had Sunday.

“Ricardo is a great player," said Kizer. "He knows it. I know it.

"I think that the most important thing after a game like that is to go into practice with the excitement that we had today to get back to work. We are going to come out and we are going to make the proper adjustments that we need to make and go out and make the plays we need to make to go out and win games."

Fantastic receptions like the one-handed grab Jordan Leslie made in Indy to set up a first-half TD give Kizer hope that better times are ahead.

“Absolutely, you are always looking for sparks,’’ he said. “Jordan was able to give us a big spark then, and we expect the whole receiving corps is going to make those plays throughout this whole season.”

 

yep yep......Duke just went on to the injury report...Currently listed as questionable for this weeks game against the Bengals with a shoulder issue.

 

I'd honestly love to have Duke right about now with Sproles gone. Not great but a nice cog on a team that doesn't have more than a few missing.

 

I'm sure Sashi would answer the phone if Philly came calling....I think my team likes draft picks better than actual usable players.

 

Same with crow

Wondering if it's Hue trying to make up excuses for neglecting the run game in his playbook

 

The real question in my mind...Why did I put two "yeps" in that post? lol! no idea.

seriously though. Many of the best head coaches in this league, mess around with the injury reports on the weekly. See Bill Belichick, the master of the bogus injury report. He obviously uses it to his advantage. Not saying that's the case here with Duke and Crow's report, but ya never know....Then again, it could be Mathew Dayes getting an opportunity this week. If that's the case, I look for Dayes to play well...

 

Another SB winning coach that messed with the injury reports a ton was Shanny's dad Mike Shanahan. We used to call it "Shanahanagins" when he was in Denver. It is not a beloved practice in the eyes of fantasy leaguers, as we all know....

 

Sorry SAS, I wasn't commenting on your support for Kessler, simply that if you take away the deep pass from Kizer, then you have Kessler, sort of.

 

The Good: The Browns signed 6'4" former Tarheel WR Bug Howard to the practice squad

The Bad: Even though I like the addition, this undrafted guy who wasn't on a team will be on the field in a few weeks.

The Ugly: This WR corps will continue to look bad as these types of transactions are going to be the only way to improve the team

 

oh boy. this should be fun. lol!..I wish I could see SAS when he reads that.

get ready for some statistical analysis that will blow your mind...

 

As you wish.

Kizer
Deep: 9 of 30 (30.0%) for 239 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 46.4 QB rating
Short: 47 of 76 (61.8%) for 394 yards, 3 TD, 6 INT, 55.5 QB rating

Kessler
Deep: 13 of 29 (44.8%) for 355 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 87.6 QB rating
Short: 115 of 162 (71.0%) for 1,025 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT, 95.3 QB rating

 

If we could get Kizer to play like Kessler we'd be 3-0.

 

Kizer Honks: "You have to respect the deep ball. Durr!"

Kizer: *9 of 30 (30.0%) for 239 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 46.4 QB rating*

Opposing defenses:

 

Clearly he shoulda honked: "They'd respect it, if we could catch it!"

 

the opposing defensive coordinator when he gets the news that the Browns are starting Kessler: