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SMH...here we go...

Active shooter in a casino, police evacuation, famous person runs after the evacuation and the police detain him...AUTOMATICALLY it is racial profiling. I haven't seen any excessive force from any video. I hope the officer was more professional than telling him "don't move or I will blow your F***ing head off", however, I think this is a great example of...do what the officers say, which he did, and no violence will come of it. He was detained because he ran. As soon as they cleared him (about ten minutes later), he was explained the situation and let go. EVEN HE STATED AT THE SCENE, "I understand"...NOW, he is bringing it to light.

If there is an active shooter at a scene with 100s of people, there is a pretty good chance someone innocent might be detained and questioned..if you are running in the opposite direction of the police, it's a good chance YOU will be the one detained, with some force if necessary.

 

No. 1 pick Myles Garrett was diagnosed with a high-ankle sprain, knocking him out several weeks. Generally 4-6 weeks.

 

dline- you mention zeke and aaron hernandez. so 2 bad apples spoil a bunch?? how about tim tebow and chris leek ? meyer coached them too. tebow is the polar opposite of hernandez. so why doesn't meyer get credit for that or his good actions vs hernandez's murder actions? how many young men has he coached? thousands of young men and what, 2 are bad eggs? 5, 10, 20 in what a coaching career since the late 1980's!!! i really think you are micro-managing his track record to minuscule numbers. for a high profile coach like him to have 2 bad eggs isn't that surprising considering the thousands of young men he coached !

 

http://rense.com/general96/KCchief.htm

Clark Hunt, CEO and Owner of the Kansas City Chiefs

Mr. Hunt called a meeting with all of his Coaches, Players and field staff and firmly told them, "You are all simply paid performers on a stage and that field is my stage!

You will stand, with your hand over your heart and with respect, when our Country's National Anthem is being played or you will no longer be a Kansas City Chief, a Coach for the Kansas City Chiefs or have any association with the Chiefs Organization!

I will immediately fire you, no matter who you are!" You can make your political statements off the field, but when you're employed by me and I'm signing your check,
I demand that you make our fans proud and not embarrass them."
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I applaud you sir for this. This is what Kaepernick doesn't understand!

 

I'm sorry, I mixed up posters.

But, I also disagree with your thoughts here as well.

I am coaching youth, Urban Meyer is coaching adults. There is an inherent difference between the two situations, imho. At what point is babysitting no longer a part of the job in coaching? To me college athletes are being paid, no matter what the media says. When they are getting $20k - $100k in scholarships every year, they are getting paid. THEY are responsible for their actions. The coach is responsible for telling them what they can and cannot do according to NCAA regulations. If they have no program in place to educate them on NCAA rules, then the program is definitely responsible. But to say a college coach defines a players ability to become a murderer later in life, to me, is asinine.

A college coach has a 80 hour a week job of teaching the game of football. It still isn't enough time. To patrol and teach 85-105 unique personalities in the ways and means of being a Man and Human Being would be impossible to do. It is ridiculous to even suggest a single man could, let alone should be responsible for that.

Now, if you are telling me he has a program that TEACHES these kids how to act like thugs in order to further their football career, then I would agree 100% with you..I am assuming you have no allegation, let alone proof that any such program exists.

 

Wow. This is some grade A bull shit right here. First off the police were evacuating the building. 100's of people ran the opposite way of the police. Out of the building and onto the street. That is what an evacuation is. Getting people OUT. Why would Bennett do the opposite of everyone else and run at the police? It seems pretty obvious to me that Bennett ducked behind cover when he thought he heard gunshots than ran out of the building like everyone else when the cops started to evacuate the building.

What in anyway did Michael Bennett do show the police he was anymore a suspect than any other person who ran from that casino? Why the hell did the detaining officers need to pull their guns on the man when he was clearly not armed. Look at the video. Bennett is on his stomach complying and another officer still is above him on a balcony with his gun drawn.

You say he was detained because he ran. EVERYONE RAN. Why was he the only one detained?

http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

The police said they have over 100 videos to go through yet the arresting officer didtnt have his body cam on. Why? The police didnt have an answer.

There are some facts here. Michael Bennett was handcuffed at gun point. Michael Bennett was 100% innocent of any wrong doing.

 

It's probably rather easy to figure out why he stuck out. How many other 6'4 black guys do you think were in that crowd?

 

No, you are ignorant to the facts my friend...The evacuation had already occurred, he was found crouched beside a machine and when the officers told him to come out, he ran for the exit. The officer followed him on foot and caught him outside the casino.

I didn't say to run to the police...He needed to do what the police ask and stay where he was, but move away from the machine. He freaked out and ran, which I can't say I wouldn't have done also. I would have been scared shitless if I knew there was an active shooter in there. I GET why he ran...but after the fact, I also completely understand why he was apprehended...and so did he during the situation as his statement says he understood. NOW, he is coming out and saying he was mistreated.

He was mistreated because he ran from the police, not because he is a black man, or a 6'4" black man...because when they told him to come out from behind the machine, he didn't stand up and come out, he RAN THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM.

If he had come out with the other evacuees, nothing...it wasn't until he was given an order to step out THEN ran that the situation changed.

I would have to say, with an active shooter on the premises, I believe ALL the officers probably had their guns drawn. Again, I didn't see any excessive force being put upon him while he was on the ground and being handcuffed.

Do you know he was the only one detained? He is the only celebrity that has spoken out about it...

I am a 5'8" white man and was taken into police custody when I was about 25, in a minority neighborhood (of which I lived, right around the corner from the incident). I knew many of the people on the street, but there were about 6 police cars when I was walking home and because the description of a man with a gun was white, I was automatically detained for questioning in the incident. Is that racial profiling about me? Should I have sued for bad treatment? I was handcuffed and put in a police car for over 90 minutes, talking with at least a dozen law enforcement. In the meantime, the found the actual guy and as soon as they confirmed who he was, I was allowed to leave. I have talked about this incident on here before, but no one sees the relevance because they don't want to.

And, I would absolutely agree the officer should be reprimanded for not having it on as per protocol. Whether that is 1 day unpaid leave, or 30 days unpaid leave, what ever the punishment is. It sucks that it just happened to be the guy involved in the incident as clearly other officers had theirs on. There are hundreds of thousands of officers in the country, getting 100% of them to do EVERYTHING properly 100% of the time is not going to happen...it just isn't.

Doesn't matter the profession, no one does EXACTLY what they should be doing 100% of the time. Body cameras are fairly new equipment, with even newer mandates on when to have it turned on. It can't be on 100% of the time as they are limited to how much data can be stored. In a high pressure situation, like an active shooter, SOME officers are bound to forget to push the button to start recording with their camera. Now, if they forget, they should be reprimanded accordingly to the full extent of the punishment. They will remember in the future. Again, if this were not a high profile person, I don't think anything else would have ever been said...I know I didn't.

And, we don't know what information was given by witnesses and relayed to the officers on duty...If a description was available, he may have matched it (same as I matched the description). Now if the description of the shooter was a 5'8" white male, then yes, I agree this would be ridiculous and the officer involved should be relieved of duty. Does anyone know the information available other than "active shooter"?

 

Calvin Pryer released by the Browns. The Jets selected him as the 16th pick in 2014. Traded him to the Browns this offseason for a cup of coffee and now the Browns cut him for fighting at practice. He must be a waste of a player to be cut that easily.

 

#FakeNews

 

damn!

 

No, you are ignorant to the facts my friend...The evacuation had already occurred, he was found crouched beside a machine and when the officers told him to come out, he ran for the exit. The officerfollowed him on foot and caught him outside the casino.

No, you are just blind. Did you look at the video I posted? If you did you would see that the evacuation was nowhere near complete at the time Bennett was detained. Ther were still many people in the casino/club some lying in the floor. Others still seated at the tables and slot machines. You can hear the officers yelling get out. So if officers did yell for him to get out from behind the machine why wouldn't he take that as get out of the area?

I didn't say to run to the police...He needed to do what the police ask and stay where he was, but move away from the machine. He freaked out and ran, which I can't say I wouldn't have done also. I would have been scared shitless if I knew there was an active shooter in there. I GET why he ran...but after the fact, I also completely understand why he was apprehended...and so did he during the situation as his statement says he understood. NOW, he is coming out and saying he was mistreated.

I am sorry where did you hear that the police asked him to stay where he was? I haven't seen any evidence of that. If they did why did they treat him differently than everyone else? Why was it ok for others to run for it and not him? Why didn't they chase him down and just talk to him? It's not like he made it far. He was detained right outside the door. They could have questioned him. Patted him down. They didn't need to pull guns on him and handcuff him forcefully and put him in a squad car before getting his story. They treated him like they did because he was a big black dude who they saw as a threat because of his appearance. Also where in his statement did he say he understood. You can see in the video he is pleading with the cops. Doesn't look like he understood why he was being detained.

 

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the fight did him in !

 

I am a 5'8" white man and was taken into police custody when I was about 25, in a minority neighborhood (of which I lived, right around the corner from the incident). I knew many of the people on the street, but there were about 6 police cars when I was walking home and because the description of a man with a gun was white, I was automatically detained for questioning in the incident. Is that racial profiling about me? Should I have sued for bad treatment? I was handcuffed and put in a police car for over 90 minutes, talking with at least a dozen law enforcement. In the meantime, the found the actual guy and as soon as they confirmed who he was, I was allowed to leave. I have talked about this incident on here before, but no one sees the relevance because they don't want to.

Nobody cares about your life story. It has nothing to do with what happened in this case. First of all there was no description of a suspect in this case. The suspect was a statue that got knocked over on a tile floor. From the time the cops got on the scene to when Bennett was detained was like 5 to 10 minutes. It's not like the place was empty and all of a sudden Bennett came running out dodging the police. Let me ask you this. Were you detained at gunpoint? Where you handcuffed face down on the pavement which a knee in your back and another officer covering you with his gun on you?

 

I am sorry where did you hear that the police asked him to stay where he was? I haven't seen any evidence of that. If they did why did they treat him differently than everyone else? Why was it ok for others to run for it and not him? Why didn't they chase him down and just talk to him? It's not like he made it far. He was detained right outside the door. They could have questioned him. Patted him down. They didn't need to pull guns on him and handcuff him forcefully and put him in a squad car before getting his story. They treated him like they did because he was a big black dude who they saw as a threat because of his appearance. Also where in his statement did he say he understood. You can see in the video he is pleading with the cops. Doesn't look like he understood why he was being detained.

According to the report....he was hiding behind a slot machine when police spotted him. Shots had reportedly been fired....so I get while you'd hide behind a slot machine. But police asked him to come out....and he ran. Reportedly. Then he, again reportedly, leaper over a 4 foot wall.

If you were a cop.....in an active shooter environment......and a 6'4 man (regardless of skin color) had ran from you and jumped over a wall......would you attempt to detain him? Would you pull your gun out?

 

I am tired of cutting and pasting on this dam phone. This right here shows exactly the problem. What the hell does Bennett's protest have to do with what happened here. The police union only cares that Bennett is lying about what the cops said? And it just so happens that the one piece of equipment that could clear the cops of saying what was accused just happened to not be turned on?

You keep up the blind support of all law enforcement no matter the obvious problem is with some of them.

For the record I'm a 6' 265 pound white guy who fully supports cops and troops. But I can recognize that there is a problem. And if your going to always choose a side instead of taking each case on its own merit nothing is going to change.

 

Not where that camera was...but the reports state in the area that Bennett was, it had already been evacuated. Big casino..This guy had to run to the other side to get to where Bennett was. As you could see in the video, there was more than one African-American around. He wasn't singled out "because he was the wrong color in the wrong place at the wrong time". If that were the case why weren't there other detainees, based simply on their skin color?

Obviously he didn't understand, he wasn't the shooter...

That didn't change the fact that the original order to come out from behind the machine was ignored and he took off running instead. The officers didn't understand why he was running away from them...It was pandemonium, everyone was in a panic. I'm not saying that Bennett did anything wrong, what I am saying, given the situation, the officer didn't either.

No, I wasn't detained at gunpoint because as soon as they told me to get on the ground I immediately got on the ground...and yes I was face down, with force in my back so that I could not get up until they handcuffed me.

 

There are conflicting reports about what direction was given. It has been documented and can be heard on the video that the cops where yelling for people to get out of the casino not just out from behind their cover.

If I am an officer on the scene I am looking for an active shooter. Not someone who seems to be hiding from an active shooter. If I suspected that Bennett was the shooter I would order him on the ground hands where I can see them. Not to get out.

I have no problem with the officers having their guns out. I do have a problem with them keeping them out and detaining an unarmed man who is not resisting regardless of color.

 

Irish, did you actually watch the video? Your narrative doesn't sound like someone who watched it.

3:27 mark, cops and camera man walk by a guy on his knees

3:27-3:39 mark, group of people walking in from of camera man, next to officers

3:40 mark, cop can be easily heard yelling "hey, everybody out"

3:44 mark, camera man can be heard saying, "they say there's one running"

3:48 mark, you can clearly see people still in the casino after Bennett was already out

3:53 mark, you can see another gentleman who just left, sees cops running, and raises his hands and begins to drop to the ground before realizing they weren't there for him. Again, Bennett out the building

How in the world did you watch all this and come to the conclusion that "the evacuation had already occurred/he didn't come out with other evacuees" and how did you surmise that police told him to stop when, again at the 3:40 mark, you can clearly hear one yell "hey everybody out" only to hear the camera man say "they say there's one running" a mere 4 seconds later. Contrary to your narrative, he was doing what police said, according to that video. But unfortunately he fit the usual description