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The inside track is that this will be shortened to two games but the initial six game suspension details will remain in place.

Meaning, if he screws up again the original ban would go into affect which could see him with a lifetime ban if it's a domestic violence issue.

 

Which all means this is going to court regardless.

 

Possibly. The league painted itself into a corner by not setting any wiggle room on a suspension that is being enforced off of witness testimony that appears to have been suspect enough that the case was never going to court.

If the NFLPA were to sue and win in open court, Goodell's enforcement of policies would come into question and any league suspension that came prior to this under his watch could be litigated in civil court and the owners could be on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

Where does that info come from, Tim?

 

I don't think Zeke will accept having the offense recorded and counted at all. It sets him up to get screwed I'm the same way and be banned, which is especially a valid concern of he actually is innocent this time. I'd be paranoid for my future, especially if I don't know how to keep a low moral profile.

 

A person that I speak with that covers the Cowboys believes that this is the general feeling within the front office and coaching staff.

Once her character is brought into question the league may be forced to relent on the DV aspect and go after Elliott on the conduct portion which already has precedence set for getting reductions down to two games.

 

I'm not sure how much of a choice he will have in the matter. The 'conduct detrimental' portion is going to give the league a lot of room to work with when deciding on another form of suspension if the relent on the DV portion.

 

Conduct detrimental is one thing but if he has DV hanging over his head the suspension length is not his main issue.

 

^^ axe-if it was in a court of law, then i would agree. to me the NFL ruled on him alone and without a Judge and Jury panel. It's like they can do whatever they want as it's their league, their brand and their code of conduct policy. What rights does he have? They suspended him and his rights as they saw fit. I'm sure Zeke will get his appeal, but this is not a courtroom. It's the NFL doing it. Two different things. One is the real law and the other makes up their own laws and rules. Remember, they suspended Pacman Jones a entire season for him throwing $10k at a stripper and trying to get it back. A season for that ? They do whatever they want. Half the shit they do would never fly in a courtroom. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve an appeal, but in the NFL world, nothing makes sense or seems right !

 

If I understand the email I received, the DV clause would only go into affect if he were to face suspension again for specifically that.

He could face other discipline without that aspect being involved again.

Remember, this is the opinion of one writer on the situation and their knowledge of it is better than mine. I'm just relaying it.

 

Cat - how may times have players appealed a suspension, or sought to reduce a suspension? It happens all the time. I'm not sure why you would think Zeke doesn't have that right...?

 

Oh I'm not talking about what the compromise potentially being offered is. I'm just saying I don't see how Zeke could accept a deal that counts this to his DV offense total.

 

axe-you're wrong ! i said he deserves one - "I'm not saying he doesn't deserve an appeal." My point is in the circus know as the NFL, who the hell knows what's going to happen with Zeke? That's all im saying. It's totally unpredictable vs a courtroom where their are procedures in accordance to the LAW. The NFL has no law and flies by the seat of their pants on suspensions etc.

 

It might be the only way to get his suspension reduced.

It would probably also look really bad for him publicly if he fought it based on the idea that he wanted to get that first strike back. It would imply he had concerns about possibly being charged with DV again in the future.

 

OK, I'm confused then. You had said this earlier: if the NFL suspended him, why does he or anyone, else get a chance at a appeal ?

I'm not sure now what you were driving at.

 

That's like a catch-22. But he can always say he didn't do it and was unjustly given a strike and because of that he sees it highly possible to corruptly be given another strike. He has a basis to complain without looking immoral. It might be the only way his suspension gets reduced but I would take more games and lose that than have it over my head.

 

That makes too much sense, Joe.

You must be living in a world, like, a decade ago, lol.

 

lol. Well he or his lawyer would probably have to make it obvious in a statement. I can just imagine all the hot takes either way, but especially if he didn't. The text records are certainly helping his image even if they really do nothing to address the DV. Actually it could show he had a motive if you spun it that way just as much as she did.

 

me personally thinks he or anyone has a right to an appeal. i just think bc it's coming down from the NFL's code of conduct policy and Roger Goodell, it might not happen as it's not a real court. It's basically their way or the highway, so he may not be granted an appeal. Not saying I agree or that it's fair or right, but it's their league.

 

And there is the rub for everything in life. It's all in how the individual person perceives it and that is arrived at by the combination of circumstances that each individual goes through in their lifetime.

Living in an age of crazy PC madness, I feel pretty confident in assuming that he would get gutted on national television by someone looking to make a name for themselves off of Elliott's situation.