He didn't draft him, but did give him his best NFL season in 2015: 12 starts: 252 of 381 (66.1%), 3,191 yards (8.4 YPA), 25 TD (6.6 rate), 6 INT (1.6 rate), 107.4 rating Dalton was on track to throw for over 4,200 yards and 33 TDs against 8 INTs that season before injury and was mentioned as a potential MVP candidate. Cody Kessler is a better version of Andy Dalton (more athletic, more accomplished in college, larger hands @IrishDawg42, same throw velocity on radar). Dalton is a mere 2.54 centimeters taller.
If given the option to have Russell Wilson or Drew Brees over DeShone Kizer or Brock Osweiler, I can guarantee Hue wouldn't have a problem with their 5'10 or 5'11, respectively.
Agreed, TD. I believe that Hue is praying hard that Osweiller can forget about his horrendous season in Houston, and finally live up to the potential that made the Broncos feel he would be the successor to Peyton Manning. As a 62 year Browns fan...I'm praying for the same thing. Rok
Agreed, TD. I believe that Hue is praying hard that Osweiller can forget about his horrendous season in Houston, and finally live up to the potential that made the Broncos feel he would be the successor to Peyton Manning. As a 62 year Browns fan...I'm praying for the same thing. Rok
Well, guess I double posted without knowing it. Still getting used to the new format. Plus, I'm old. Rok
No doubt. Who wouldn't? But we aren't talking about those guys. We are talking the ultra-conservative Cody Kessler. He doesn't even belong in the same sentence as the two diminutive SB winning QB's you mentioned....
I don't think ya gotta be Sherlock Holmes to see that Hue Jackson wants a big bodied QB, with more arm talent than Cody Kessler...
Neither one were SB winning QB's when they were drafted. And I'm pretty sure they were the same height when they were drafted as they are now.
If true, then Hue's QB evaluation hasn't developed since 2006 and it's a good thing he's not the one stocking the cupboard. Assuming "big-bodied" means 6'4" and 230+ pounds (like Kizer), here's a recent sampling of them since the last time we took one: Carson Wentz (7-9) Paxton Lynch (1-1) Cardale Jones (0 starts) Jacoby Brissett (1-1) Jameis Winston (15-17) Logan Thomas (converted to tight end) Blake Bortles (11-34) E.J. Manuel (6-11) *Brock Osweiler (13-8) *Andrew Luck (43-27) *Nick Foles (20-16) *Cam Newton (51-40-1) Ryan Mallett (3-5) Colin Kaepernick (28-30) Blaine Gabbert (9-31) John Skelton (8-9) Sam Bradford (32-45-1) Josh Freeman (24-35) *Joe Flacco (83-55) JaMarcus Russell (7-18) Brady Quinn (4-16) Jordan Palmer (0 starts) Matt Gutierrez (0 starts) Trent Edwards (14-18) They have a 0.470 winning percentage and have started a possible 37.1% of games. Only 5 of the 23 have winning records (3 of which were first overall picks) and account for 210 of the combined 380 wins (0.588 winning percentage).
PSA 0.470 might sound impressive since we finished last season at 0.0625, but keep in mind that 0.500 is average by default, so these prototype QB's are no better than average.
lol! Yeah, kinda tuff to be a SB winning quarterback BEFORE you get drafted into the league... If it makes you guys feel better, my favorite QB of all time is Fran Tarkenton. I was also a huge Brian Sipe fan....Both small quarterbacks. I'm not speaking against small QB's....Hue Jackson is very clear about the things he wants in his starting QB, and one of them is for his starter to be over 6'2"....We could go on and on talking about small QB's that found some success in this league. Doug Flutie, Jim Zorn, Joe Theisman, Pat Haden, Mike Vick, and I'm sure I could name 20 others. Joe Montana wasn't very big and many people call him the GOAT....None of that however, has anything to do with Hue Jackson's thoughts and feelings..
Do you guys think I'm making this stuff up in regards to Hue Jackson's preferences? Because I'm not. I'm basing all these posts off of comments that Hue Jackson has gone on record with..lol. I swear. cross my heart....
I've heard him say 6'2" TD...for the record... and for the record...He has also stated he feels hand size IS important in a division like the AFC North...just sayin'
Personally, I don't think a QB has to be 6'4" to be effective. It's really all about finding those throwing lanes. Great footwork can take ya a long way. For every successful QB under 6'2", I could name five that had all the physical attributes you want, and couldn't play for shit...Drew Brees is the true master of stepping up in the pocket, finding the proper throwing lane, and delivering daggers through the heart of the secondary. It's a thing of beauty to watch if ya ask me... Those who know me, know I've always favored athletic QB's that can move those feet. IMO, the closest I've ever seen to a perfect QB, was Steve Young. That guy could do it all. Intelligence, amazing accuracy, and able to torch defenses with his legs..What's not to like about Young? That's all the Browns need to do.....find the next Steve Young.
Hue's very own quote: And from his 2016 press conference after the team drafted Cody Kessler, when asked why him (Cody): Of course, Hue doesn't say "arm strength" but rather "arm talent", which he explains above as the ability to throw the ball to who you want it to go to. A cannon for an arm is no good if the accuracy is crap. What else does Hue prefer? And after drafting Kessler? And third? Not unlike Cody did this offseason scheduling workouts and throwing sessions with his receivers. For what it's worth, here's what Hue said on the 6'1" Kessler after taking him last season: It was only when pressed at the NFL Combine this year when it was expected that favorite-to-be-picked-by-Cleveland, Mitchell Trubisky, was going to measure under 6'2" what height Jackson preferred: About. So... do we believe a coach who was clearly enamored enough with a prospect after drafting him to say "trust me" and have ups-and-downs with the same prospect in a 1-15 football season, would only to replace that quarterback with a cast-off, throw-in to a draft pick deal that has already burned bridges with two NFL teams in as many seasons just because he's 6'7" and has a strong - although highly inaccurate - arm? Not a highly-drafted rookie, or a free agent signed from another team. Child, please.
