Day 1 of training camp is in the books! o Unlike Pittsburgh and Baltimore . . . Everybody showed up !!! o Per Hue Jackson . . . No one got injured. Only some IV's administered for cramps. We are already ahead of the curve from last year !!!
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/ind...izer_ahead_of_where_h.html#incart_river_index the beat continues to sound the same...
Well, it IS a quarterback league, and our history since the return in 99 is well documented. The QB angst can't come as a surprise to you. We got plenty to talk about though. I'm just as excited about the way they are building that D...
That's just it TD I am tired of the endless QB chatter. I am looking for improvement at the position. I am just not excited about anyone. Yet I like what the FO did to bolster the line. We'll see how it goes. I am excited about the defense. I honestly think that the front seven could be the most talented group I've seen put together. If they gel together well I can see 3 to 4 players with double digit sack totals. That has me more excited than anything on offense. Having flashbacks to the late 80s
Also, considering most of our gains are on the defense and they aren't allowed to hit anyone until tomorrow..There really isn't much else to look at and talk about.
Okay . . . Who will be the starting RT week 1? Also, I see we made the first cut of training camp. George Atkinson gone. Enter Brandon Wilds. (both are running backs).
My sole wish for this team to is find a QB that can simply start 16 games competently. Is that so much to ask?!
Interesting stats...I knew we were young last year, but this is incredible, the number of rookie snaps.
@IrishDawg42 The teams right behind us - Indianapolis, Tennessee, and Chicago - all got at least 1,000 snaps out of a rookie lineman and another 1,000 between two part-time defenders. Chicago owes a lot of their number to Howard and Dallas got theirs combined from Prescott and Elliott. The Browns got theirs ALL over. So while those teams' players are poised to take big steps in growth in year two, the Browns as a team are poised to take big steps. Ogbah - 849 Boddy-Calhouhn - 571 Nassib - 540 Kindred - 537 Coleman - 533 ... all rookies with at least 500 snaps (roughly half a season). Kessler (349) and Louis (316) both notched over 300. That's at least five players to most other teams' 2-3.
2-14 with Kizer? hmm, wow, that's terrible. You really have ZERO faith in this kid, I guess....That's a shame.
Hopefully Kizer performs a helluva lot better than that...I think he's going to rip this job away from Kessler, not unlike the way Russell Wilson took it from Flynn in his rookie training camp...Nothing against Kessler. I think he'll be a fine back-up....Kizer has AFCN written all over him. I don't even think it's gonna be that close...Kizer wins the job outright in the preseason.
This pick had absolutely zero basis in the usually analytic-heavy F/O, this was throwing the coach a bone. I'll dig up the article, but there's a very basic analytic marker surrounding wins that Kizer fails. And we're talking, spectacularly. He's not within the even NFL-starter material range for this stat. His accuracy is a hindrance and won't likely improve, which leaves him at a below-average NFL starter level. There were numerous reports about his make-up mentally, his professionalism, etc. that leaves a lot of doubt as well. For the talk of his athleticism, let's recall that Cody Kessler actually tests better from an agility and speed perspective. His major redeeming attribute is an inaccurate, strong arm. Blake Bortles can tell you exactly how well that works out in the NFL. Ultimately, time will tell, but he's got so many negatives to start with that if he does take over as a starter somehow, I don't see anything productive coming out of it and he seems to have the make-up of a player who'll be significantly stunted or even broken if he faces a lot of adversity too early.
I hope you are wrong, and I hope the stat is meaningless, because it seems very evident that the coaches love Kizer. Coaches don't rave about a players' intelligence and ability to absorb the playbook completely unless it 's real, and the intention is to start him very soon. By all accounts his work ethic has been nothing short of spectacular. Reports are that he was studying that playbook like a mad man and he has it ALL down stone cold. That's impressive in my book. I go back to the 2015 season, and Kizer looked pretty good when he was surrounded with talented skill players....I don't know, maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I can absolutely see Kizer being the best of this QB class. He controls himself like a real QB in all facets. He is going to take command of this football team. It doesn't seem like this is too big for him, if that makes sense.
