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Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by bluez, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    That's a little flawed...How many routes were run by each player? That would be significant. I have to believe backs like David Johnson have run 3 times as many routes as Duke did. He was in the offense very little. Not that he couldn't have maintained that average, but when you are talking about every route run, I don't think he was in on nearly as many routes. So if the play was designed to him 60% of the time, his average should be higher than someone who only has the play designed to go to them 30% of the time. If Duke had been in the game the majority of the time, I would agree....and don't take this the wrong way, I would like to see him in there a lot more. Numbers here, could definitely be flawed though.
     
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  2. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    It looks like the stat is calculated off yards over a "snaps in route" stat to get to the final number. Extrapolating that data, Duke Johnson must have spent 276 "snaps in route" (514 / 1.86) in 2016. Accounts for 71.8% of his total snap count when he wasn't the ball carrier.

    For David, it would have been 508 "snaps in route" (879 / 1.73). That's 75.7% of his total snap count when he wasn't the ball carrier.

    They both appear to be targeted similarly (72 versus 76 percent), just so happened David Johnson saw double the total snaps (964 versus 457) - not quite three times. Duke Johnson actually has a better catch rate than David Johnson (71.4% versus 66.7%).
     
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  3. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    FWIW... Duke Johnson's 1.86 actually stacks up really well with all wide receivers, too.

    Most recent *free* data from 2015 (Johnson's 2015 stats were nearly identical to 2016), but the Top 5 slot receivers were:

    Emmanuel Sanders - 2.29
    Randall Cobb - 2.13
    T.Y. Hilton - 2.00
    Jordan Matthews - 1.87
    Jarvis Landry - 1.86

    Obviously, they are playing from the slot versus Johnson from either slot or running back position but if he can move to slot and maintain that 1.86 number, he'd be one of the best slot receivers in the NFL.
     
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  4. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Ugh.

    New URL linkage is not obvious and the site doesn't support tweets?! C'mon man!

    Oh well, at least I can change my font to Trebuchet MS. Now @Tim... how do we make that our default? ;)
     
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  5. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Both are on my to do list and I'm hoping to wrap them up today. :)

    Trebuchet you say... hmmm... ok, let's give it a look.
     
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  7. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Just throw the link for the tweet in the post and submit. :)
     
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  8. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Yay!!

    Also...



    Correction: "... projected Brock Osweiler as the *Colts* Week 1 starter".
     
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  9. TopDawg Legend

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    TIME TO GET FIRED UP!!!
     
  10. TopDawg Legend

    I'm not ready to make any predictions yet, but I sense that the 4.5 win total that Bovada has pinned on us, is a lock for these Browns. Six wins is a legit mark that I think is well within reach. With all the talent that's been added to this roster, if we can get some quarterback production, there's an outside shot that this team could actually stay in the Wildcard hunt. It's a very young roster and everybody is inspired by what has happened here under the current regime. We aren't yet ready to compete with the Steelers for the North, but I don't think these Browns are intimidated by anybody...
     
  11. I'm trying not to get excited for the year but I can't seem to help myself. If Osweilier gets named the starter that should be enough to make me sad again.
     
  12. Really wish we still had Pryor to.
     
  13. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Kessler starts 16: 8-8
    Osweiler starts: 4-12
    Kizer starts: 2-14

    #CodyWatch #TeamCody
     
  14. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Browns were in a deathspin due to the tank-job in 2016. They built an entire offensive identity around a shaky, oft-injured QB who hadn't taken meaningful snaps in two years (and yes, I can still admit I was on board with him), and then they also inexplicably stopped running the ball in most contests, despite close scores. The interior of their line was atrocious due in part to ineptitude (Irving, Pasztor) and injury (Bitonio, Greco). They completed lacked playmakers, their best receiver was an ex-QB, their best running back was an undrafted free agent, and their best defensive player came via trade in Week 8 (and the defense picked up noticeably thereafter).

    It's still early and optimism abounds, but I truly believe that they are poised to make a major turn-around in 2017. The addition of Gregg Williams and a ton of talent to the defense - specifically defensive line - has me encouraged they'll be able to keep us in games. The offense has a series of question marks, but if the coaches practice what they preach (RUN THE FOOTBALL) and Cody starts and plays 16 games, we've got an efficient (at worst) to Top 10 (at best) QB and a very much improved running game.

    I know schedule strength doesn't mean much this time of year, but it's the first time I can remember in recent history when the Browns weren't facing a Top 5 schedule to begin the year.

    Arrow is definitely pointing up.
     
  15. Dogside18 Franchise Player Browns

    Andrew Hawkins has announced his retirement.

    Good for him to overcome the odds, and go out on his terms. He recently received a Masters degree in Sports Management from a prestigious school and plans to further his education in business and economics. His plan is to get into front office work in the NFL. Once again, good for him.



    Has Dorial Green Beckham signed with anyone?? I haven't seen anything on the subject.
     
  16. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    If you didn't get a chance to read his "thank you, Cleveland" note, you should. Dude was a class act and an easy guy to root for.

    He's plutonium... I don't think anyone's touching that until attrition or major need arises.
     
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  17. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Until I see a huge gap between any of these guys, I am going off the additions to the team, including those we lost to injury last year..now barring any continued injuries..

    I would expect 5-9 wins no matter who is at QB, Kizer I think would push us down to 5-7 wins, simply because as a rookie, the first 3 games may have situations that he could possibly lose the game, where even Kessler as a "vet" may be able to overcome some of those situations. I expect every game this season to be close. That is where I think we will see gains this year.

    At the same time...if Kizer is as smart as he seems, and he learns the playbook as quickly as they say he can..He also gives us the best chance to reach 9 wins as I believe he has the best tools of all 3 QBs. I just don't see him passing Kessler before game 1.
     
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  18. TopDawg Legend

    I didn't think Kizer had any shot to beat out Kessler for week 1, until mini-camp happened. All I heard out of Berea was how good Kizer looked, and how Kessler was having great difficulty with passes getting batted down....It's going to be an intense competition. I think Kizer will emerge because he is the one that Hue Jackson couldn't stop raving about, but we'll see soon enough which one of these guys separates himself...
     
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  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish


    I think a good part of that had to do with the fact that he was hands on with Kizer and stated publicly that the QBs coach was taking care of the other QBs, who were veterans. I think it's anyone's competition to win at this point. I did think it was Kessler's to lose prior to OTAs.
     
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  20. TopDawg Legend

    I agree...

    It has been widely speculated that Cody Kessler was truly an upper management selection, and Kizer was a pick that Hue Jackson really favored. If that's really true, advantage Kizer. The coach decides who gets the snaps (reps)....I really expect a spirited competition, and the ONLY thing I want to see is the QB that gives the Browns the best chance to win...Even if it's Brock. I just don't want the team to get divided about who should be starting. I hope we have a clear cut winner by the end of preseason game #3...

    There is NO question that if Cody gets the nod, he will have to win some games. If we start out 0-4, I'd expect to see Kizer get the call for the rest of the way...unless of course he gives it back, in which case we'll be talking about Rosen, Allen and Darnold before Thanksgiving.....
     
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