I afraid your right, Matty. Thing that bugs me the most is the have been so hesitant to do anything. Now its condition critical and they find themselves in a very deep hole. Your right about it taking time too... the damage of bad contracts, lack of FA acquisitions and a coaching staff that seems lost has been done. I'm kinda surprised how Holland looked like a genius for years and then let the wheels fall off. I'm even doubting his competence at this point. Goalies need tweaked also, its a bloody mess. _________ ___________________ lol about Carley. I was wondering if anyone had noticed. She's very nice... of course Rozanne Barr would look nice next to Ken Cal, lol... well I wouldn't go quite that far, but you know what I mean.