whatever happened to watching the games and enjoying them for what they are, and forming an opinion from things that aren't in a box score?
I don't think fantasy sports has changed that. I think most fans couldn't or didn't care to grasp many of those things before. Fantasy stats allow them to immerse themselves into details (shots, hits, ppp, faceoffs, etc.) that they never had reason to get into before.
I think the same hardcore fans that watched some of the stuff not in the box score are the same ones that can appreciate what a Stuart or Hjalmarsson do on the ice because of how their play impacts fantasy stats (less hits, less shots, strong pk, allow for line matchups, etc.) Similar in fantasy vs real football. Drive-by fans cling to fantasy topics and perspective becasuse it's what they like or what they know (care to try to know). Hardcore fantasy players (even non-hardcore NFL fans) pay attention to line play, defensive trends, corner matchups and what DCs do with their secondary against some offenses, etc. So while it has a detrimental effect on sport discussion with some fans I think it improves the discussion among others. I will concede it probably made dumb or novice fans dumber in football but I think the rest are better off.
I think the fans are just as stupid or smart as they've always been but the context of the conversation has shifted and the quantity of the information relating to the sport is increased. Overall, I actually think fantasy sports improves the conversation (I said improve, not "make awsum") because it forces the vast hordes of homer fans to pay attention to what's going in other franchises and at least provides a basis for what would have been ignorant opinions when comparing things around the league for decades before. Of course it's still there but I think it's better than it was. For example; I think use of the word "best" has dropped off exponentially from 15 years ago and before, in large part, because many of those people are in a fantasy league and see more stats every day or week.
imo, the deification of arbitrary statistics, stripped of context, is ruining sports, and fantasy is the prime cause of it. last season, we were told that a team which started on the road in the playoffs wasn't gonna win the cup. instead, the 8 seed beat the 6 seed in the finals.
I'll agree that it probably has the worst impact on football, but since baseball is very much an individual game and since the hardest things to do in hockey are scoring goals and stopping pucks, I think fantasy sports actually make the fans MOAR smarterer overall.
More information is better for the fan conversations overall, even if that information is in a flawed context like fantasy stats.
In other words, I'm saying your rant is for sux.
it's a universally accepted fact that the only team that can win the president's trophy and the cup in the same year is the wings
Is that universe ours or the one Bryzgalov comes from, or maybe the universe with the triangle head people?
"conventional wisdom" is often a crock.
lol, I'll agree with that thought 100 gazillion percent.
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